From owner-cvs-all Mon Mar 18 23:18: 5 2002 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D68D37B400; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 23:18:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from shambel.netsanet.net ([64.166.84.91]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0GT70072TLM0RE@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net>; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 23:18:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from shambel.netsanet.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shambel.netsanet.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2J7HoFh043613; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 23:17:50 -0800 Received: (from mikem@localhost) by shambel.netsanet.net (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g2J7HnnY043612; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 23:17:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 23:17:49 -0800 From: Mike Makonnen Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc rc In-reply-to: <20020318211832.F60554@blossom.cjclark.org> To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu Cc: David O'Brien , Doug Barton , Makoto Matsushita , cvs-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, imp@freebsd.org Message-id: <1016522269.43351.27.camel@shambel.netsanet.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.2 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <20020317151113.W29705@blossom.cjclark.org> <20020317163932.Q3758-100000@master.gorean.org> <20020318194237.A18907@dragon.nuxi.com> <20020318211832.F60554@blossom.cjclark.org> X-Authentication-warning: shambel.netsanet.net: mikem set sender to mike_makonnen@yahoo.com using -f Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 21:18, Crist J. Clark wrote: > I wouldn't expect the administrator to know or care about the exact > order. I think in the vast majority of cases, they can be grouped in > other ways, perhaps by functionality. For example, you could group all > of the NFS related ones in one place. Then the developers who > (supposedly) know what order things need to be done in can stick the, > > /etc/rc.sysctl nfs > > Command in the best place in the scripts. > > But this kind of arrangement breaks down when the user wants to add > sysctl(8) knobs that don't fit into existing groupings. > > This might be something the NetBSD rc.d system might be helpful > with. Perhaps burning brain cells on that might be more useful than > trying to patch up the existing FreeBSD scripts. > -- Unfortunately, you'd still have the same problem, namely, how to distinguish which sysctls to twiddle when. Anyways, I seem to be the front-runner on the NetBSD-style rc project. Gordon Tetlow has said he is busy with other work and the other two I've seen aren't at the stage I'm at now. I've been booting with it regularly for some weeks, and it's at the point now where I am not using any of _our_ rc scripts in the boot process. I'm currently integrating recent rc* changes, cleaning it up, and integrating it as much as possible in the NetBSD scripts, as David O'Brien suggested. Look for an announcement on -current in the next couple of days. Cheers, Mike Makonnen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message