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Date:      Mon, 18 Mar 2002 23:17:49 -0800
From:      Mike Makonnen <mike_makonnen@yahoo.com>
To:        cjclark@alum.mit.edu
Cc:        David O'Brien <obrien@freebsd.org>, Doug Barton <DougB@freebsd.org>, Makoto Matsushita <matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org>, cvs-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, imp@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/etc rc
Message-ID:  <1016522269.43351.27.camel@shambel.netsanet.net>
In-Reply-To: <20020318211832.F60554@blossom.cjclark.org>
References:  <20020317151113.W29705@blossom.cjclark.org> <20020317163932.Q3758-100000@master.gorean.org> <20020318194237.A18907@dragon.nuxi.com> <20020318211832.F60554@blossom.cjclark.org>

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On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 21:18, Crist J. Clark wrote:
> I wouldn't expect the administrator to know or care about the exact
> order. I think in the vast majority of cases, they can be grouped in
> other ways, perhaps by functionality. For example, you could group all
> of the NFS related ones in one place. Then the developers who
> (supposedly) know what order things need to be done in can stick the,
> 
>   /etc/rc.sysctl nfs
> 
> Command in the best place in the scripts.
> 
> But this kind of arrangement breaks down when the user wants to add
> sysctl(8) knobs that don't fit into existing groupings.
> 
> This might be something the NetBSD rc.d system might be helpful
> with. Perhaps burning brain cells on that might be more useful than
> trying to patch up the existing FreeBSD scripts.
> -- 

Unfortunately, you'd still have the same problem, namely, how to
distinguish which sysctls to twiddle when. 

Anyways, I seem to be the front-runner on the NetBSD-style rc project.
Gordon Tetlow has said he is busy with other work and the other two I've
seen aren't at the stage I'm at now. I've been booting with it regularly
for some weeks, and it's at the point now where I am not using any of
_our_ rc scripts in the boot process. I'm currently integrating  recent
rc* changes, cleaning it up, and integrating it as much as possible in
the NetBSD scripts, as David O'Brien suggested. Look for an announcement
on -current in the next couple of days. 

Cheers,
Mike Makonnen

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