From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 19 17:40:43 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 334E6990; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 17:40:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.netplex.net (mail.netplex.net [204.213.176.9]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.netplex.net", Issuer "RapidSSL SHA256 CA - G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6957787; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 17:40:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sea.ntplx.net (sea.ntplx.net [204.213.176.11]) by mail.netplex.net (8.15.1/8.15.1/NETPLEX) with ESMTP id t1JHcQI6018312; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 12:38:26 -0500 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS and Clam AntiVirus (mail.netplex.net) X-Greylist: Message whitelisted by DRAC access database, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mail.netplex.net [204.213.176.9]); Thu, 19 Feb 2015 12:38:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 12:38:26 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Eischen X-X-Sender: eischen@sea.ntplx.net Reply-To: Daniel Eischen To: Ian Lepore Subject: Re: default pager (csh) In-Reply-To: <1424357692.1108.18.camel@freebsd.org> Message-ID: References: <54E5232F.3060409@delphij.net> <021CBC62-4CC6-4137-897E-FE482139E09B@westryn.net> <54E539F3.2070506@egr.msu.edu> <4F3A7029-EF19-40E0-B859-E169684A3B36@lastsummer.de> <1424357692.1108.18.camel@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Franco Fichtner , freebsd-current X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 17:40:43 -0000 On Thu, 19 Feb 2015, Ian Lepore wrote: > On Thu, 2015-02-19 at 07:46 +0100, Franco Fichtner wrote: >>> On 19 Feb 2015, at 02:27, Davide Italiano wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Adam McDougall wrote: >>>> The PAGER was less for about half a year and reverted. Please see: >>>> >>>> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=242643 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> OK, I think this ends the discussion =) >> >> Nope, not good enough. The way I see it we achieved nothing >> despite the fact that several bugs are on the table. >> >> Now that we all agree more(1) is the way to go, can we please fix >> colouring and the pager quit issue for man pages using sensible >> options in more(1)? >> >> Other's should speak up for their woes with the FreeBSD defaults >> too. The defaults are supposed to be the best we can do. Right >> now, we can actually do better. :) > > I sure hope "fix coloring" is shorthand for "don't you dare turn on any > of that color crap without the user's permission." Agree! Leave pager alone. And I kind of like that PAGER exits when you get to the end, but perhaps I'm in the minority on that. The thing I can't stand is losing all contents of 'man' when you exit the pager, so I'm with Julian on that too. -- DE