From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jan 22 13:59:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA00295 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:59:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from vdp01.vailsystems.com ([207.152.98.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00289 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:59:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from crocodile.vale.com (crocodile [204.117.217.147]) by vdp01.vailsystems.com (8.8.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA09765; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 15:57:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from stargate1 (stargate1.vale.com [204.117.217.100]) by crocodile.vale.com (8.8.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA25108; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 15:57:45 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <32E68D58.7C58@vailsys.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 15:57:44 -0600 From: Dan Riley Reply-To: driley@vailsys.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0a1 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jfieber@indiana.edu, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X-inside CDE segfaulting all over the place X-Priority: Normal References:

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I have been following the last few posts on this thread and am still undecided as wheather or not to purchase the Xinside server and the related bundled AcceleratedX stuff. Has it been a problem getting up and running and worth the effort of cleaning up X11R6?

Thanks for the advice

Patrick Giagnocavo wrote:
>
> John Fieber writes:
> > On 19 Jan 1997, Kim Culhan wrote:
> >
> > > I had XFree86 installed too but decided to follow Xinside's advice in the
> > > docs and delete all of XFree except the Xinside xserver stuff which
> > > was installed at /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/AcceleratedX.
> >
> > Out of curiosity, does anyone know the nature of CDE's dependancy
> > on the Accelerated X server? I was thinking about getting CDE,
> > but then noticed on the X Inside page about it it said that
> > Accelerated X is required.
>
> Hello John,
>
> Thank you for your interest in our AcceleratedX CDE.
>
> We don't support CDE if you run an X server locally other than
> AcceleratedX. This is due to the bugs in the XF86 code that we would
> otherwise have customers blaming us for.
>
> As well, CDE makes heavy use of the X server, so you want a fast X
> server. Bundled prices from resellers such as WGS
> (http://www.wgs.com/) usually include the AcceleratedX server at a
> discount. The CDE CD-ROM includes both the Linux and FreeBSD
> versions; the CDE install script detects which OS you are running and
> does the right thing.
>
> >
> > I'd also be interested to know how much memory (vss and typical
> > rss) the window manager, session manager, file manager and
> > friends sucks up. On a 32 megabyte 100MHz Pentium box, would
> > there be anything left to actually run anything without
> > thrashing?
> >
> > -john
> >
>
> CDE -will- run even in 16MB. However you will see some swapping even
> just switching between workspaces. The 32MB that you have should be
> just fine, of course more memory is always better :-) . Do remember
> that you are running (probably) a high-color X server + X clients +
> Motif libraries + Dtwm (based on mwm) + ToolTalk (RPC) daemons.
> Plus any other applications and daemons that you run.
>
> The only reason that I have more than 32MB RAM in my machine is due to
> running a 12MB Netscape and a 20MB XEmacs process at the same time ;)
>
> Cordially
> --
> Patrick Giagnocavo - support@xinside.com
> Xi Graphics - Accelerated X Servers
> Technical Support Department