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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 583e845a51280e382758d22269c219fc; Sun, 06 Jul 2025 20:49:02 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Millard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkg List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3826.600.51.1.1\)) Subject: Re: FYI: pkg 2.2.1 and official main-amd64 package builder beefy18's time frames: good news and bad news (preliminary) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2025 13:48:51 -0700 References: <7047F445-B6BC-4DB1-919D-E62A3FAD5C19@yahoo.com> To: FreeBSD-pkg@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <7047F445-B6BC-4DB1-919D-E62A3FAD5C19@yahoo.com> Message-Id: <881FFA75-17B0-4A5A-8E49-0C13693D8B0F@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.600.51.1.1) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.70 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.93)[-0.929]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.72)[0.723]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[FreeBSD-pkg@freebsd.org]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.65.83:from]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.65.83:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bZzxb5ljSz3YNZ X-Spamd-Bar: - [Sending to the right list this time, not to the one for PkgBase.] On Jul 6, 2025, at 13:29, Mark Millard wrote: Context for these comments: = https://pkg-status.freebsd.org/beefy18/build.html?mastername=3Dmain-amd64-= default&build=3Dpe02807e84be6_s24ebe9fa0ec as of having built 31634 packages (plus 122 failed), 4336 or so packages Remaining to attempt to finish. I'll note that the example being main-amd64, it involves the debug FreeBSD kernel. That mixed with the pkg 2.1+ or pkg 2.2+ involvement make for things taking a lot longer to build overall. The good news: The built-pkg-count vs. time curve structure generally looks much closer to linear for the package count involved so far, unlike the concave up structure that pkg 2.1.* lead to. Concave-up cannot be viable long term as the number of packages to build increases. The scale for that issue has shifted signifcantly in the better direction. (There will be better data about this once the overall build completes.) The bad news: The basically linear rate for 2.2.1 (so far) vs. 2.0.6 for the fairly modern pkgs built counts ends up with: Official build examples on beefy18: Newer, pkg 2.2.1 involvement: Built 31634 (so far) in elapsed-time 210.3 = hrs or so. Older, pkg 2.0.6 involvement: Built 35771 in elapsed-time 96.5 = hrs or so. So: the overall build had already taken more than twice as long as it used to and still had 4336 to attempt to finish building. ampere2'main-arm64 and main-armv7 take noticeably longer on the slower hardware. So the above for main-amd64 (beefy18) is likely not the worst case. But, as ampere2 is still working on finishing with pkg 2.1.4 for main-armv7 builds before it starts building main-arm64 with pkg 2.2.1 involved, it might be 4+ weeks to have that 2.2.1 example complete and main-armv7 with pkg 2.2.1 involved start. As stands: Built 16638 Remaining 16109 but Elapsed 154:43:03. (So it suggests another 150 or so hrs overall as a quick estimate for it finishing the pkg 2.1.4 based example.) Note: Builds of main-i386 (beefy17) are scheduled to stop. So I've ignored it here, although it looks similar to the figures for main-amd64 (beefy18). =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com