From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Thu Jan 7 04:34:49 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD5BA66533 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2016 04:34:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cse.cem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yk0-f174.google.com (mail-yk0-f174.google.com [209.85.160.174]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47C941E20 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2016 04:34:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cse.cem@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yk0-f174.google.com with SMTP id a85so250660217ykb.1 for ; Wed, 06 Jan 2016 20:34:48 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=yd8yx4CfmXsPamZ7jZTmFS7fIhPkN2yryjcC/vi4L90=; b=PTOOuiKBXKFyvgIFHG7/B4W8Z9gRGiXxtS+krNG8rW9QZOk2p5suG0gQZtMaWdaS3H 5Z9tcn0h4Y9hA7sWTX9muj1E/Av5ACnisRF2nXktlpCUgfEJU1TEGdD0aQgChbJSbofe UELymCnrIfl2xOQoAEPioRbyVar4pjiFtPr80fSGUDBHUbc+Osog0hFVQWO0eA7g+pHH M19LJGYeDvNJUUZu8PzxFoocbVHLTEMiVfpC1XOLUBr8CJEgdL+LAxgKGcTeedq3zS24 3y9Ww4lQiLBVxN92VuJXWnIig73Wn9iCyEs26GKjQiU/NA0qfnV6jerfQLTc4AN3nX4N Rr0w== X-Received: by 10.13.216.12 with SMTP id a12mr66153956ywe.245.1452140799723; Wed, 06 Jan 2016 20:26:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yk0-f180.google.com (mail-yk0-f180.google.com. [209.85.160.180]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p63sm83773662ywf.8.2016.01.06.20.26.39 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Jan 2016 20:26:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-yk0-f180.google.com with SMTP id x67so328152874ykd.2 for ; Wed, 06 Jan 2016 20:26:39 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.129.153.129 with SMTP id q123mr84366555ywg.281.1452140799190; Wed, 06 Jan 2016 20:26:39 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: cem@FreeBSD.org Received: by 10.37.4.69 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jan 2016 20:26:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <5687D3A9.5050400@NTLWorld.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 20:26:39 -0800 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: relaunchd: a portable clone of launchd From: Conrad Meyer To: Mark Heily Cc: Jonathan de Boyne Pollard , FreeBSD Hackers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2016 04:34:49 -0000 On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 6:12 PM, Mark Heily wrote: > On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 8:42 AM, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard > wrote: >> >> I recommend, to anyone going down this route, looking towards finishing >> systembsd, especially instead of inventing a wholly new suite of protocols. >> >> * https://uglyman.kremlin.cc/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=systembsd.git >> * >> http://homepage.ntlworld.com./jonathan.deboynepollard/FGA/debian-systemd-packaging-hoo-hah.html >> * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10176275 > > I strongly disagree with your recommendation to adopt DBus and systemd > as core components of FreeBSD. Hi Mark, Hold on a minute, read any of the links above or below, and calm down. Systembsd is *not* systemd. http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20140915064856 FreeBSD isn't going to adopt Systemd, period. Save the anti-systemd screed for a Linux community. Thanks, Conrad