Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:05:11 -0500 From: "Chad Leigh, Pengar Enterprises, Inc & Shire.Net LLC" <chad@pengar.com> To: richard childers <fscked@pacbell.net>, Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com> Cc: Aaron Hill <hillaa@hotmail.com>, gferris@mail.unam.na, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Pimping FreeBSD Information (was: 'Order') Message-ID: <4015767762.983268311@[192.168.99.123]>
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This is total bullsh*t. Shut up Richard! Not everything in the world has to be free. I have not read said book but people who write books about so-called "free" software are a valuable resource. And they should be compensated for their time and efforts. Of course, according to the usefulness of the book. NOt all of them are fine examples of technical journalism. There is a lot of freely available information on the net. Trying to findand understand that information can be maddening. A book that compiles, and distils that information into understandable language is a valuable resource that helps us better take advantage of the freely available software. Such authors are not parasites. They are providing a service that should be compensated for by those who take advantage of that service. If Ted's book is a valuable resource, I am sure that others would like to know about it and if specific problems, like getting a CD of FreeBSD 4.2 can be accomplished outside of the USA, can be accomplished through Ted's book, and that was the question being asked here, then it is a valuable answer and not some parasitic blathering. Richard, go back and stare at RSM's picture and worship it since you seem to be a RSM/FSF worshiper. Chad --On Tuesday, February 27, 2001 7:16 AM -0800 richard childers <fscked@pacbell.net> wrote: > Maybe you should offer to send free copies to people ... or quote from > your book, instead of just referring to it. > > I've seen two references to this book ... two attempts to pander it, to > pimp it, to sell it, to drum up orders for it ... but I don's see you, > Ted, contributing any expertise. Just sales advertisements. > > Maybe I'm wrong ... maybe you've offered help, quoted copiously from the > book, time and again. Maybe there are entire chapters posted somewhere > where people can read them, and use them, without lining your pockets. > > If I am, I'm sure others - not you, Ted - will inform me. And I will duly > apologize. > > But so far you seem indistinguishable from any other parasite whom has > latched upon another's free software as a way to make money. > > ... So, distinguish yourself. Post some free material. Quit pandering. > Answer some questions or go away. Quit pushing your pathetic book. > > Where did you get your information? From the net ... for free ... of > course. > > 'Nuff sed. > > > -- richard > > > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> Maybe you should read the book and tell us an unbiased >> opinion of it. ;-) >> >> Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com >> Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide >> Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: richard childers [mailto:fscked@pacbell.net] >> > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 10:07 PM >> > To: Ted Mittelstaedt >> > Cc: Aaron Hill; gferris@mail.unam.na; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >> > Subject: Re: Order >> > >> > >> > And we all know how much a referral from the author is worth, >> > relatively speaking ... >> > >> > -- richard >> > >> > >> > >> > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> > >> >> > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >> >> > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Aaron Hill >> >> > >> >> > Gail, >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Also, please look through that Internet site mentioned as you >> > will find it >> >> > offers other titles than just the FreeBSD manual. One such example >> >> > is a book >> >> > titled The Complete FreeBSD which many people on this mailing list >> >> > use, you >> >> > can find this book (with CDs) by following this link... >> >> > >> >> > http://www.wccdrom.com/titles/freebsd/bsdcomp.phtml >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> Or The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide, my book, which HAS a 4.2 >> >> FreeBSD CDROM included. It is also available overseas - see the >> >> website for a list of bookstores. >> >> >> >> Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com >> >> Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide >> >> Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >> > >> > -- >> > Richard A. Childers >> > Senor UNIX Administrator >> > fscked@pacbell.net (email) >> > 203.556.8471 (voice/msgs) >> > >> > # Providing administrative expertise (not 'damage control') since 1986. >> > # PGP fingerprint: 7EFF 164A E878 7B04 8E9F 32B6 72C2 D8A2 582C 4AFA >> > >> > >> > > > -- > Richard A. Childers > Senor UNIX Administrator > fscked@pacbell.net (email) > 203.556.8471 (voice/msgs) > > # Providing administrative expertise (not 'damage control') since 1986. > # PGP fingerprint: 7EFF 164A E878 7B04 8E9F 32B6 72C2 D8A2 582C 4AFA > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message Pengar Enterprises, Inc. and Shire.Net LLC Web and Macintosh Consulting -- full service web hosting Chad Leigh chad@pengar.com chad@shire.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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