From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Feb 28 13: 2: 6 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BCDF37B401 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:02:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from wall.polstra.com (wall-gw.polstra.com [206.213.73.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9E343F93 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:02:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1SL22u5066047 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:02:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@vashon.polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1SL22Sm031572; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:02:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:02:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200302282102.h1SL22Sm031572@vashon.polstra.com> To: ports@freebsd.org From: John Polstra Cc: joek@mail.flyingcroc.net Subject: Re: WARNING: portupgrade considered harmful In-Reply-To: <3E5FC0DD.1080704@mail.flyingcroc.net> References: <3E5FB1F8.4050405@mail.flyingcroc.net> <20030228195747.GA27650@huckfinn.arved.de> <3E5FC0DD.1080704@mail.flyingcroc.net> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <3E5FC0DD.1080704@mail.flyingcroc.net>, Joe Kelsey wrote: > > I prefer to think of it as a fundamental misdesign in rtld-elf. The > basic problem is that rtld-elf is more than happy to load two different > libraries wit virtually the same name at once, leading to massive > errors. FreeBSD's rtld-elf is the *only* runtime loader that I have > ever encountered which allows this broken behavior. Apparantly, Polstra > believes that there exist a situation where loading two instances of a > library or two versions of a library is *not* an error. If rtld-elf did > not do this, it would catch or prevent most of these errors in the first > place. Dude: If Polstra has any thoughts he would like to share with you, he'll express them himself. PS: Polstra isn't the rtld-elf maintainer. Polstra -- John Polstra John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message