From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 27 09:24:44 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2427237B481 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 09:24:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from Math.Berkeley.EDU (gold.Math.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.58.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A49F43FE3 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 09:24:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@Math.Berkeley.EDU) Received: from bootjack.math.berkeley.edu (root@bootjack.Math.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.58.46]) by Math.Berkeley.EDU (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2RHO4eB020481; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 09:24:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from bootjack.math.berkeley.edu (steve@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h2RHO4BR064407; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 09:24:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@bootjack.math.berkeley.edu) Received: (from steve@localhost)h2RHO4mN064406; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 09:24:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 09:24:04 -0800 From: Steve Sizemore To: Terry Lambert Message-ID: <20030327172404.GE64316@math.berkeley.edu> References: <200303260034.aa92057@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> <3E81160B.E5406C60@mindspring.com> <20030326035938.GF1713@dan.emsphone.com> <3E816243.AED1CB4F@mindspring.com> <20030327070317.GA19434@math.berkeley.edu> <3E82B1B8.65D4375B@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3E82B1B8.65D4375B@mindspring.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-32.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham version=2.50 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Re: NFS -current X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Steve Sizemore List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 17:24:45 -0000 On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 12:09:28AM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > Steve Sizemore wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 12:18:11AM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > In fact, the only legitimate argument I have ever heard for UDP > > > has been "I have an old Linux install that can't talk TCP, as > > > only UDP was implemented at the time I installed it". > > > > Have you already forgotten the locking problem that you were > > helping me with last week? The only solution was to use UDP. > > Working around a screwed up implementation is not a "legitimate" > argument. The only legitimate argument to that is "unscrewing" > the implementation. > > 8-). I agree with that to a degree - at least from the perspective of a developer. (If I had the knowledge and time to unscrew the implementation, I would certainly try.) However, for those who are primarily sysadmins and FreeBSD advocates, using UDP is a legitimate alternative to switching to linux. Steve -- Steve Sizemore , (510) 642-8570 Unix System Manager Dept. of Mathematics and College of Letters and Science University of California, Berkeley