From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 25 06:41:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CB46F17 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 06:41:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FE432E5D for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 06:40:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mandree.no-ip.org ([92.228.227.138]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MUTSJ-1WArHO1wxv-00RI5c for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 07:40:58 +0100 Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost6.localdomain6 [IPv6:::1]) by apollo.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B8C23CE7C for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 07:40:53 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5292F0F5.6090203@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 07:40:53 +0100 From: Matthias Andree User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading Perl... Somebody just shoot me and put me out of my misery! References: <25503.1385152807@server1.tristatelogic.com> <201311231220.36687.Mark.Martinec+freebsd@ijs.si> In-Reply-To: <201311231220.36687.Mark.Martinec+freebsd@ijs.si> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:rF9AsoTUDgjMZWXO6r5l4Wlx/eMtZho/nNVyXaDLONGY3e8MLkC 9vCCBpRc6TTLoBRkr3bBRW94QQDPrSqiSaMJxcv8nPhnzBswdEmf4mZEMxpmXsOUdg+9D04 2mQ4HEXuRmA/V6XgvQVV7iGkbiWwmPjV1aCjdEemOIiygOgsezwn+E40LA5IQu4murEonUZ ClBAjmrSTLc57ues1B+Jw== X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 06:41:00 -0000 Am 23.11.2013 12:20, schrieb Mark Martinec: > On Friday 22 November 2013 21:40:07 Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: >> Now, one last little thing... >> >> The note in the UPDATING file dated 20131120 gives essentially the same >> instructions as the one dated 20131023, *however* it also contains this: >> >> 1) Change the option in lang/perl5.16: >> make -C /usr/ports/lang/perl5.16 config >> >> HUH?? I don't understand this at all. What exactly is "the option" that >> we are changing here? And what does it matter to anything? >> >> It would be Nice if this were entierly less opaque. > > $ man ports > [...] > config Configure OPTIONS for this port using dialog4ports(1). > >> And what does it matter to anything? > > Gives you a choice to re-think your existing/chosen port options. > For example, a new default is now THREADS, but you may not like > it, as it somewhat increases the memory usage and requires > to rebuild all perl modules. Which shows an interesting facet of this whole tedious process: We're doing a lousy job of explaining the options to unsavvy users, and we're also doing a lousy job of tracking options. Perhaps we should just slash down the options and go more for "build the default" - it also reduces testing complexity and would give for a more uniform ports experience for everyone (packages use default options anyways). I would even go that far to propose killing some common options such as NLS DOCS EXAMPLES and replace them by a "make globcalconfig" that sets them system-wide through make.conf, so that we don't need to set/reset them each and every time a port changes options, nor even offer them.