From nobody Mon Nov 3 00:09:27 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4d0Bm43FJjz6Fr5f for ; Mon, 03 Nov 2025 00:09:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (udns.ultimatedns.net [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "ultimatedns.net", Issuer "R12" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4d0Bm406nhz47y8 for ; Mon, 03 Nov 2025 00:09:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=bsdforge.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of bsd-lists@bsdforge.com designates 24.113.41.81 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bsd-lists@bsdforge.com Received: from ultimatedns.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTP id 5A309Svp017773; Sun, 2 Nov 2025 16:09:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2025 16:09:27 -0800 From: Chris To: Lars Tunkrans Cc: Sulev-Madis Silber , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is the DVD image so large? In-Reply-To: <73b4a16d-30f3-44b6-8477-aaa8e5aff82a@gmail.com> References: <8B8086D4-C68D-4C8A-86F2-C35212823B94@ketas.si.pri.ee> <73b4a16d-30f3-44b6-8477-aaa8e5aff82a@gmail.com> User-Agent: UDNSMS/17.0 Message-ID: X-Sender: bsd-lists@bsdforge.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_1bb9ef85f619be7e7cb7369ecd848066" X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.50 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[bsdforge.com,reject]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.20)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; MIME_UNKNOWN(0.10)[application/pgp-keys]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/mixed,text/plain]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11404, ipnet:24.113.0.0/16, country:US]; local_wl_ip(0.00)[24.113.41.81]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=multimap; Matched map: local_wl_ip X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4d0Bm406nhz47y8 --=_1bb9ef85f619be7e7cb7369ecd848066 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On 2025-11-01 13:01, Lars Tunkrans wrote: > Den 2025-11-01 kl. 17:19, skrev Sulev-Madis Silber: >> >> On November 1, 2025 4:06:48 PM GMT+02:00, Dennis >> Clarke wrote: >>> Why is the DVD image so large? Can something/anything be trimmed out? >> it's kind of funny >> >> because cperciva was just asked to fill up the apparant "empty" wasted >> space seen in beta3 dvd >> >> which he did! even overachieved the task slightly, apparently? >> >> so in order to not generate full war we would need to either cut back, >> remove or abadon actual dvd size in some images >> >> or maybe make image remotely or locally customizable >> >> or provide separate images (tiny, medium, huge) which are just offline >> repos >> >> or finally start shipping images with various de's which users ask but >> which can't be easily done as disks don't self-expand. and then you need to >> archive it all too >> >> or something else >> >> p.s.: btw, i was not able to install ports from b3 dvd for some reason, i >> didn't check why and completed the test setup from remote > > HI > > Yes I started this ..... > I notices that B2 did not include the DVD: ./packages/repo directory and > contents. > this was fixed in B3. but B3 was Void of KDE packages. B4 now have KDE > packages > but is 4.8 GB , > I propose to abandon DVD 4.7 GB format and that future DVD-ISO packages use > DVD-DL > 8.5 GB discs. Why stop there? Why not abandon DVDs entirely and require 16GB and require a 16+ GB thumb drive? IMHO The easier for someone to get FreeBSD on their target, the better. It used to be on CD. Now it's available in DVD. 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