From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Feb 27 11:26:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F608150D6 for ; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 11:26:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA26965; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 14:27:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902271927.OAA26965@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 14:36:06 -0500 To: Greg Lehey From: Dennis Subject: Re: Cobalt blames linux for their security problems! Cc: hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <19990227211853.N7279@lemis.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 09:18 PM 2/27/99 +1030, you wrote: >On Saturday, 27 February 1999 at 2:16:02 -0500, mike@seidata.com wrote: >> On Fri, 26 Feb 1999, Julian Elischer wrote: >> >>> There's a good idea.. use a free OS and then blame it for your problems.. >> >> Tell me about it... here's my response. >> >> >> [snip] >> >> >> I had actually looked into some of Cobalt's products... must say I've >> lost quite a bit of respect for them as a result of their reponse to >> this issue. Then again, what's to consider anyway... They don't run >> FreeBSD. ;) > >They could just as well have run FreeBSD. The issue here is that they >(or somebody else) are blaming the OS for their own mistakes. Well the RAQ is a RISC processor that FreeBSD doesnt support, so I dont think that that was an option. Blaming an OS is an OK thing I think...you cant as a vendor be expected to fix everything thats wrong....PCI shared memory on secondary buses doesnt seem to work in FreeBSD2.2 (havent tried 3.1 yet)... you have to blame the OS as its not practical to fix it yourself. One problem with cobalt is that they arent running the latest kernels which fix the problem....it seems that THAT is their fault. Dennis Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com ISA and PCI T1/V35/HSSI Cards for FreeBSD and LINUX HSSI/T3 UNIX-based Routers Bandwidth Manager http://www.etinc.com/bwmgr.htm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message