From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Aug 21 17:30:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA22442 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 17:30:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (ppp-d3.dialup.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA22432 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 17:30:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA11031; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 17:27:17 GMT (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199808211727.RAA11031@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Studded cc: Terry Lambert , rotel@indigo.ie, mike@smith.net.au, Nicolas.Souchu@prism.uvsq.fr, chuckr@glue.umd.edu, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: C and static initialization with unions In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 21 Aug 1998 13:49:00 MST." <35DDDD3C.D50819C7@dal.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 17:27:16 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I could (were I not bound by NDA, etc.) name 3 projects off the top of > my head that are loathe to extend their development to FreeBSD because > of the difficulty in using modern development tools (like egcs, and a > couple others) and lack of thread support. When one of them is asked why > they aren't planning a FreeBSD implementation their standard answer is, > "It is too difficult to produce a binary that performs even to our > minimum standards, and therefore it isn't cost effective for us." As a compiler, egcs is no better than our thread support. Attacking Terry over this, when his employer is one of the major sponsors of thread-related development on FreeBSD, seems a little misdirected. > Whether this is important to you or not is entirely dependent on what > you want FreeBSD to be in the next five years. Is it important to *you*? Do you feel like contributing? (Rhetorical question only.) -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message