From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sun May 20 13:05:12 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009F0EE021C for ; Sun, 20 May 2018 13:05:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from home.opsec.eu (home.opsec.eu [IPv6:2001:14f8:200::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89CC97E4B2 for ; Sun, 20 May 2018 13:05:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from pi by home.opsec.eu with local (Exim 4.89 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1fKO1O-0008y4-QR; Sun, 20 May 2018 15:05:10 +0200 Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 15:05:10 +0200 From: Kurt Jaeger To: Harry Schmalzbauer Cc: freebsd-stable Subject: Re: removable storage usability, devd, hald and X11-desktop in general Message-ID: <20180520130510.GI37752@home.opsec.eu> References: <5beffba2-d2d5-689a-9cb1-054379f55adf@omnilan.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5beffba2-d2d5-689a-9cb1-054379f55adf@omnilan.de> X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 13:05:12 -0000 Hi! Thanks for the detailed report. > For those who agree with my _user_ usability view, as a summary, can you > tell me: > o How do you access mobile media like FAT UFDs and NTFS HDDs? I sudo to root and mount it. > o How do you access aribtrary DVDs (yes, besides data, I'm also curious > if someone watches video discs and how)? Data dvds: See above. Video: I use one of those commands: mplayer -mouse-movements dvdnav:// mplayer -dvd-device /dev/cd0 dvd://1 mplayer -dvd-device /dev/cd0 -alang en dvd://1 mplayer -identify dvd:// and a few other combinations. Works, I only vaguely remember one case where no variant did work at all. -- pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 2 years to go !