Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 19:53:17 +1000 (EST) From: Gary Roberts <gary@wcs.uq.oz.au> To: rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com (Rodney W. Grimes) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: The Mentors' Club (was Re: Gating hackers ... ) Message-ID: <9504260953.AA20205@wcs.uq.edu.au> In-Reply-To: <199504260516.WAA01243@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at Apr 25, 95 10:16:38 pm
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Rodney W. Grimes writes: > And the list for the mentor to ask this on already exists, and is full > of excelent tallent. It is this list, hackers!! We are going way way I have no problem with this. A mentor who gets stuck, puts his newbie on hold and asks for assistance or pointers to the answer on hackers. > over board on pie in the sky stuff folks. No we're not!! You can blame it on me but we're just a *little* bit overboard, only :->. The thread will die down shortly and I'll have enough feedback to try and work out the least disruptive, most efficient way to go. By all means let those who have ideas or can contribute to automating the mentor/newbie thing send me e-mail and we'll continue in private and try to keep the hackers list informed with *occasional* progress reports. > IMHO, all's that needs to be done is a way for a newbie to get a mentor, Yes, an automated way, if possible. > I have done this in the past for several people, and after I get them > rolling on there way I point them off into the great masses of hackers Developers read hackers and questions and it's my impression that people like yourself (*and* many others) would benefit if the trivial questions could be kept out of these lists. > and questions when they start to ask things that make since to be asked, > or when I don't have an answer for them. > > We don't need a bazzilion lists, and a fancy match maker system, we I've read everything that has gone by on hackers since this started and I don't think anyone is really asking for this. There has been over enthusiasm (and I'm probably the most guilty of that) but common sense will prevail. At this stage Jonathan Bresler is working on a majordomo based system and I'll do whatever I can to help him. Others are welcome to contribute if they wish. I've got a couple of `announcement' type messages finished and I'll be putting more together as things progress. > just need a list of mentors (growing by the second from the sounds > of things) and a place for a newbie to ask to get paired up! Approximately 20+ individuals at the moment and every one acknowledged. I'll keep chasing up new recruits whilst the programming is going on. When this gets off the ground (and I'm determined that it will) it'll be people like Jonathan who do the automation who deserve the thanks, together with those who volunteer to be mentors. > >From the mail volume alone this idea has created almost has me wanting > to drop off the lists, could we stop engineering this to death until I really am sorry about that as my intention is to cut traffic and *not* unnecessarily create it. > Gary puts what he has in him mind togeather and we see how it flies. People can help by *not* cc'ing to hackers if you send me comments, etc, unless you feel that it is really important. I'll try and make a single summary posting every so often to keep hackers informed. Cheers, -- Gary Roberts (gary@wcs.uq.edu.au) (Ph +617 844 0400 Fax +617 844 0444) 4th Floor, South Bank House, 234 Grey St, South Bank QLD 4101 Australia.
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