From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 6 08:18:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D060416A415 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 08:18:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psionic@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE5B43D4C for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 08:18:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from psionic@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so1147205nfc for ; Fri, 06 Oct 2006 01:18:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ZuR8Lw/5qfy1HACg2PqfONBN7IFiE8FBnVpV8rGCJNWDHT5nDBxTEIkvPOAzc5cAgdNtANJLJmm2Bp9sI2LteBIkFwt0TYTPUSSnRSpKlpZqMV++frvHkM7IK6ODANvEob3JUypqFFvYOcdqr3MF0GbUOQIQduu78y1+mtcLbOU= Received: by 10.78.151.15 with SMTP id y15mr1475715hud; Fri, 06 Oct 2006 01:18:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.162.5 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 01:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5ad23a300610060118x2b581e41y3830cec9667a79e8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 01:18:18 -0700 From: "Jordan Sissel" To: "Constantine A. Murenin" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200610050852.58943.jhb@freebsd.org> <200610051306.58843.jhb@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipw(4) and iwi(4): Intel's Pro Wireless firmware licensing problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 08:18:21 -0000 On 10/5/06, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > > > In fact, brining up ath(4) vs. iwi(4) > > specifically: I happen to know the person who compiled the ath(4) HAL > > personally and trust Sam quite a bit. I haven't the foggiest clue who > wrote > > or built or reviewed the iwi(4) firmware. Running iwi(4) (which I do) > takes > > significantly more "blind faith" for me than ath(4). > > I think you've just discredited yourself from being objective, as it's > now just a matter of your own opinion aka bias of whom you trust and > whom you don't trust. ;) Am I the only one who doesn't care what the software license is so long as I can use the darned thing without having to sell my soul? Installing from ports is A-OK by me, so long as it works, and ipw does. -Jordan