From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 20:44:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E981065680 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2008 20:44:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from raq3.nitrex.net (raq3.nitrex.net [213.165.226.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4B888FC12 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2008 20:44:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.10.140] (gate.zenatode.org.uk [213.165.225.167]) by raq3.nitrex.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m53Kig6U021628 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2008 21:44:43 +0100 Message-ID: <4845AD3A.1080906@onetel.com> Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 21:44:42 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080528) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <766262.29236.qm@web63914.mail.re1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <766262.29236.qm@web63914.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:44:46 -0000 Well I think it's a space hopper http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=space%20hopper&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi (and Mary is not my aunt) Chris Beastie fan Camilo Reyes wrote: > It was started by a question posted about wanting help for a certain project. See below. > Camilo > "Bono Vince Malum" >> Message: 4 >> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 19:44:35 -0300 >> From: Gonzalo Nemmi >> Subject: Re: logo >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Message-ID: <200806021944.35302.gnemmi@gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> On Monday 02 June 2008 18:48:56 Frank Shute wrote: >>> On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 06:57:00PM +0000, Pollywog wrote: >>>> On Monday 02 June 2008 15:58:55 bridd@bridd.com wrote: >>>>> I agree completely, it's what got me over to BSD ! >>>> I am a little confused. I just see a sphere with "horns" on it that >>>> reminds me of the BSD daemon's head, only made to look less >>>> "demonic". Is it supposed to be something else? >>> It's the FreeBSD equivalent of the Rorschach inkblot test. Some people >>> see a daemon's head and other's see a sex toy. >>> >>>> If it is one of those "toys" is that what FreeBSD folks really want >>>> to project as an image? >>> The image is only in the beholder's eye. It would likely have sent >>> Mary Whitehouse* apoplectic if she'd seen it ;) >>> >>> * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Whitehouse >>> >>> Regards, >> May I ask where was it that this thread started? >> I'd pretty much like to get the whole picture of what is being discussed .. >> I did dig the list archives but couldn't find the first mail of this thread .. >> So .. any pointers will be greatly appreciated >> >> Thanks =) >> -- >> Blessings >> Gonzalo Nemmi >> >> >> >> Message: 30 >> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 01:03:40 -0700 >> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" >> Subject: RE: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials >> To: "Pollywog" , >> >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Pollywog >>> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 11:57 AM >>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials >>> >>> >>> On Monday 02 June 2008 15:58:55 bridd@bridd.com wrote: >>> >>>> I agree completely, it's what got me over to BSD ! >>>> >>> I am a little confused. I just see a sphere with "horns" on it >>> that reminds >>> me of the BSD daemon's head, only made to look less "demonic". Is it >>> supposed to be something else? >>> >> No, that is what it's supposed to be. >> >> The sex toy issue is that you saw the sphere with horns AFTER you >> saw Beastie. So you had a frame of reference, and naturally assume >> it's Beastie's head. >> >> The problem is, think about people who have NEVER seen Beastie before >> seeing the sex toy logo for the first time. Since they have no >> frame of reference they can easily assume that it means anything >> at all. Such as the business end of a French tickler, which it >> kind of resembles. >> >> When those of us in the know call it a sex toy, we are making >> a little inside joke, as we are basically saying the logo design >> is terrible because it does not indicate to anyone looking at >> it what it is supposed to represent. >> >> The Linux penguin is no different - someone seeing a Penguin >> isn't going to know it has to do with an operating system, either. >> >> Many corporate logos also suffer from the same problem. >> >> The difference between the corporate logos and Linux and us, is >> that those organizations have the marketing muscle to take their >> rediculous logo designs and pound them into the public conciousness >> through endless advertising. >> >> See a blue oval? Most people think "Ford" Not because a blue >> oval has anything to do with cars. It's because Ford has dumped >> trillions of dollars in advertising over the years pounding that >> association into the public mind. >> >> The designer of the FreeBSD logo approached it from the usual corporate >> arrogance of we can create anything we want, then just pay money >> for the association. The only problem is that the FreeBSD project >> has no money to spend to create this association. As a result the >> logo completely fails in it's job. >> >> Arguably, there is also no public association between Beastie and >> the FreeBSD operating system either, so in the long run we aren't >> any worse off than we were. (aside from the arrogant setting aside >> of 20 some years of BSD Unix history) >> >> Ted >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> End of freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 218, Issue 5 >> ************************************************* > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >