From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jun 15 14: 5:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A45737B401 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 14:05:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19443; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:05:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25061; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:05:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15146.30861.669216.436091@nomad.yogotech.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:05:17 -0600 (MDT) To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code? In-Reply-To: <20010615135713Y.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> References: <20010615135713Y.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I've had several marketing types approach me recently for details as > to whether or not Microsoft was using the BSD TCP/IP stack and/or user > utilities, and though it's always been "common knowledge" in the > community that they were, when I set about to "prove" it I found it to > be less easy than I'd thought. I've strings'd various binaries and > DLLs in my copy of Windows 98 but have yet to find anything resembling > proof. Does anyone out there have any details or discovery techniques > for confirming or disproving this assertion either way? It would be > very useful (for us) from a PR standpoint to know. I think the nmap folks noticed that the stack in Win98 (I don't remember if it was in Win2K as wll) behaved almost exactly like the BSD stack in ways that weren't mandatory. Their conclusion was that it had to be based on the BSD code to get such similar behavior, since no other stack behaved in this manner. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message