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Date:      Sun, 29 Oct 2000 11:14:39 -0500 (EST)
From:      Jaime <jaime@malkav.snowmoon.com>
To:        "nathan ." <neonlights_@hotmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: interested in freeBSD
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0010291059570.77227-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com>
In-Reply-To: <F121HwEAPcDvk7eOdU800000e04@hotmail.com>

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On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, nathan . wrote:
> i am interested in using Unix. At this moment i am operating on windows 98. 
> Could you possibly inform me of weather this is for me. I am interested in 
> learning programming etc, will this help???

	Given what you've said, I should first warn you to buy another,
seperate computer.  When I first started learning how to install and
manage Unix, I was only familiar with MacOS and a tiny bit of a VMS
mainframe at my university.  I bought a 486dx2/66 with 16MB of RAM and
212MB of hard drive space.  I installed NetBSD 1.1 by hand, one floppy
disk at a time.  Two weeks later, I had a bootable system with a graphical
interface.  It didn't run as well as my Mac, so I didn't keep it.  But
that was a very intensive two weeks of study.

	These days, I'd suggest shelling out $200-$300 for a cheap Pentium
system with at least 32MB of RAM and 1GB of HD space.  An ethernet card
and/or modem is a must.  If your current computer has an ethernet card,
buy a hub (a small one will cost about $40) and connect the two computers
together.

	The first step after buying the hardware is to set some simple
goals for yourself.  Here's my recommendation:

- Get the new computer to boot FreeBSD.  Install it, make an account for
yourself.  Reboot after installing it.  Login to both the root account and
your new account.

- Install XFree86 so that you can play with a graphical interface.  This
is a bigger step than it sounds like.  It took me a full week to do the
first time.

- Now that you have a graphical interface, make it "pretty".  This is a
good chance to learn how the packages system works.  Use the packages
system to install xv (a basic graphics viewer) and a window manager.  (See
http://www.plig.org/xwinman for screen pictures of different window
managers.)  Play with this for a while.  Its a pretty intensive step.

- Now that you have a handle on the graphics, work on the networking.  
Configure your network settings so that the computer can "see" the Windows
98 computer when they're both connected to the hub.  If you have a larger
network that you connect to, ask its administrators for advise on how to
proceed.  You can use the hub's uplink port to connect both computers to
the network at the same time.

- Since you wanted to learn how to program, play around with your system's
software now.  Install different editors and other programming tools and
try them all out.  Find the ones that you like the most.  I usually use
xemacs and vi (xemacs is a package, vi is installed by default).  The
programming class at my job usually uses pico (installed when you install
the package "pine").

- Write a simple program in whatever language you want.  You have shell,
perl, C, TCL, and more installed by default.  You can install BASIC, Java,
and others from the packages system.

- Install Netscape, an ICQ/AIM/etc. program, and so forth and play around
with networking stuff.  This should be an easy step by now.

- Install a few games and enjoy.  My favorit is xkobo and its in the
packages.  At this point, you're probably not going to need that Windows
98 computer very often.  Its still good for a few games and anything that
requires printing, but the FreeBSD system should be able to do the rest
and do it better.

	After that, you should be able to do a lot of stuff.  Programming,
web browsing, running a server for Windows computers, and more.  Then you
can explore what else is possible.

	If the above steps look odd or hard, make your own goals.  Just
keep subscribed to this mailing list.  When you hit a problem, someone in
here probably knows the answer.  Good luck.

							Jaime



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