From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 11:05:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4514216A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:05:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F0E43D3F for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:05:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])iBLB4vS8015787; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:04:58 +0200 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) iBLB4vcc011220; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:04:57 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)iBLB4u00011219; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:04:56 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:04:56 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Joshua Tinnin Message-ID: <20041221110456.GA11107@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <41C4FA1C.4090006@nbritton.org> <20041220162538.GA1206@bsdbox.farid-hajji.net> <20041220164151.GA847@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <200412200932.37029.krinklyfig@spymac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200412200932.37029.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: migrating from thunderbird to mutt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:05:03 -0000 On 2004-12-20 09:32, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > On Monday 20 December 2004 08:41 am, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > So, why do people fear real MTAs so much and try to do their work > > with "light, fast, broken, almost-there MTAs"? > > As for me, it's because my box is in a LAN with a router using a dynamic > IP, so I can't get a fully-qualified domain name. You can always install a local DNS server that allows 'internal' machines to use their own domain (only visible to internal hosts) but forwards all other requests to your ISPs name servers. > This also causes some minor issues with fbsd, but not so much that I > can't work with it. As for using Sendmail as the MTA just so Mutt can > pass off email to an SMTP server, I've tried configuring it for weeks > now, and I'm still not there. You have to solve the DNS problems first. Sendmail, like all MTAs I've seen, depends on a working DNS setup. > I may end up using esmtp if it can save some headaches, although I > purposely tried to get Sendmail to work so that I could do it the > "right" way. Well, I still want to learn, but it's one of the most > confusing and frustrating experiences I've ever had dealing with > software, and I'm not alone in this. This list is frequented by many knowledgeable people who can help you with setting up Sendmail on FreeBSD. You may be pointed at README files like `/usr/share/sendmail/cf/README' from time to time, but it never hurts to ask :-) > *That's* why people fear "real" MTAs so much, because mail transfer > protocols and software at the low level is very complicated and > extremely finicky in ways that aren't documented clearly. I see. You do have a point there :/