From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 07:48:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7FC16A4A0 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 07:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72F3C43CD5 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 07:46:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.62) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1GulKK-0004XY-3O>; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 08:48:24 +0100 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.62) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1GulKK-0003pm-2G>; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 08:48:24 +0100 Message-ID: <458101C4.8090106@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 08:48:20 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Freie =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Universit=E4t_Berlin?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mikhail Teterin References: <20061213192150.CF83D16A417@hub.freebsd.org> <200612131440.04076.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> <4580766A.600@samsco.org> <200612131711.50921.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> In-Reply-To: <200612131711.50921.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Let's use gcc-4.2, not 4.1 -- OpenMP X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 07:48:46 -0000 Mikhail Teterin wrote: > =D3=C5=D2=C5=C4=C1 13 =C7=D2=D5=C4=C5=CE=D8 2006 16:53, Scott Long =CE=C1= =D0=C9=D3=C1=D7: >> And I say that FreeBSD shouldn't be a beta-tester for new, experimenta= l >> compiler features. >=20 > We don't have to start using OpenMP in the base and no port will be _fo= rced_=20 > to use it either. But having a compiler _capable of it_ will be very go= od.=20 I would second that. Having a compiler with features aiming modern=20 omputer design wouldn't be a disadvantage and many people, like me,=20 prefere using the systems compiler instead of one out of the ports. >=20 > Unless you deem the entire gcc-4.2 to be "new and experimental" (I thin= k, 4.3=20 > is such), your above-quoted argument is not valid. I'm not very familiar with the compiler development, but it seemed to me = gcc 4.1 was like a interim solution. This arose due to the fast=20 appeareance of it's successor ... >=20 >> I also say that words and opinions are cheaper than actions. >=20 > Thank you very much, Scott, for this timely and uniquely insightful rem= inder.=20 > This important point is almost never raised on the FreeBSD mailing list= s,=20 > which so often leads participants to think, that actions are cheaper th= an=20 > words and opinions. >=20 > We are moving from gcc-3.x to gcc-4.1. Compared to _that_ move, the > difference between 4.1 and 4.2 is not very large. If you think otherwis= e --=20 > please say so explicitly. Thank you. >=20 > -mi > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg"