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Date:      Tue, 20 Jul 2004 18:32:06 +0200 (CEST)
From:      Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net>
To:        epilogue <epilogue@allstream.net>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Windows X
Message-ID:  <20040720182640.Q22466@chylonia.3miasto.net>
In-Reply-To: <20040720103415.354e80db@localhost>
References:  <BAY5-DAV11JqHxxfDbT000502a7@hotmail.com> <20040720103415.354e80db@localhost>

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> following sources will probably yield the richest results:
>
> o  the freebsd handbook (perhaps the best OS handbook out there):
>     - http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html
>     - you also have a copy locally installed at /usr/share/doc/handbook.
>
> o the freebsd-questions mailing list archive:
>    - http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/
>
> o google
>
> o any books you may have purchased.

at least in Poland, i would recommend agains buying a book. just waste of
money, as they won't give any more information that listed URLs, while
some of them can give lot of informational noise - mostly books about
Linux. and there's very little literature available on other unices than
linux.

>
> regarding your question, i would recommend starting off with the handbook
> section on X:
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11.html
>
> note that the handbook only touches upon 3 of the better known window
> managers/desktop environments.  if you're looking for something that won't
> be too disorienting (say you're coming from windows or mac), try KDE or
> GNOME.  these are full blown desktop enviroments (applications, games, etc)
> and HUGE installations.
>
i think it is very disorienting, as they try to be windows-like, and like
windows it take user away from actual knowledge as it can.

if you really wan't to learn unix, stay away of KDE and Gnome (while you
may like to use some apps from them).

> there are scads of other window managers out there and these vary
> greatly in size and functionality.  with a little time and experimentation,
> you'll eventually find the one that best suits your needs.

i recommend you icewm windows manager with icepref configurator for it.
good for beginner while fast, small, configurable. And it's actually
mostly window manager, without lots of gadgets.

> about format for mailing list questions:
>
> o many people reading and replying here use tools that don't react quite
> the same way as outlook express.  your messages with reach the greatest
> amount of readers while causing these the least amount of grief, if you
> 'wrap' your messages at around 75 characters.  (either through a setting in

i fully agree with this. but i think (not sure) that outlook as most of
microsoft products can be configured to behave normally, it's just
difficult and usually not well documented.



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