From owner-freebsd-net Sat Sep 4 12:19:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from gw.caamora.com.au (jonath5.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.41.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0485714BF6 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 12:19:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@gw.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by gw.caamora.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA02860; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 05:19:28 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Message-ID: <19990905051927.C2759@caamora.com.au> Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 05:19:27 +1000 From: jonathan michaels To: spork Cc: Brian Somers , Brian Somers , Robert Watson , freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "Invitation to participate in PPPoE Trial" (fwd) Mail-Followup-To: spork , Brian Somers , Brian Somers , Robert Watson , freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19990803225325.E10638@caamora.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from spork on Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 01:31:58PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD gw.caamora.com.au 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 X-Mood: i'm alive, if it counts Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 01:31:58PM -0400, spork wrote: > On Tue, 3 Aug 1999, jonathan michaels wrote: > > > i realise that all things bright and shiney are seen as must > > haves, but could you (briefly and not so technically) explain > > to me and the others who may also be wondering what real > > advantage PPPoE would offer to endusers. > > > > It's great!! Your ISP has to shell out for a Redback box to terminate > these connections (they co-authored the RFC w/UUNet), so right there if > you are a customer with stock in RedBack, you make a little cash. On top > of that, you bandwidth goes down a bit as you encapsulate umpteen this aggregation is happening all over the place, from what limited reading i've been able to do, especially with and about atm and the like. i realise atm is another ball game but it strikes me as a similar methodology .. sort off. > protocols inside each other, you get a sloppier network design from your > dsl provider as they realize that with PPPoE they can think of their dsl > cloud as a "Big LAN", and you get to put that new PIII's spare cycles to i have my own reservations about most all flavours of dsl, the ones beng planed for rollout over australia are not real suited to cleint sneeds, raither the providors pockets .. aka chea and real nasty. > use doing PPP on your 1.6Mb link. And don't forget how your dedicated dsl > line now requires you to "dial up" each time you want to do something... and why do you thing these value added thingamagigs are being developed ? how else is marica telcos going to get onto the cash cows that are the local fee for connect to voice/data network .. sorry i'm bit conspriacy mnded today. > Those redback folks have an excellent sales team. alla, microsoft, redhat, ibm, et al > > > I don't much care for the idea. me too, though for slightly different reasons, sort off. regards and thx. jonathan ps, al pleaese excuse my deteriorating typing, my hands are not themselves thes days. -- =============================================================================== Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia =========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message