From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 21 1:18:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from miris.lcs.mit.edu (miris.lcs.mit.edu [18.111.0.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8594537B422 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 01:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from beng@localhost) by miris.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA15822 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 04:18:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 04:18:36 -0400 From: Benjamin Greenwald To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: [kris@freebsd.org: Re: Whats is this? FBSD 4.1 isn't stable!] Message-ID: <20000921041836.A15790@lcs.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mintaka.lcs.mit.edu (mintaka.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.36]) by miris.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA03769 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 21:01:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA41200 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 21:01:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD7FF6E3302 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB25337B422 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA82966 for beng@lcs.mit.edu; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:01:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:01:57 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Benjamin Greenwald Subject: Re: Whats is this? FBSD 4.1 isn't stable! Message-ID: <20000920180157.A81946@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <20000920185458.B29063@lcs.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000920185458.B29063@lcs.mit.edu>; from beng@lcs.mit.edu on Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 06:54:58PM -0400 On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 06:54:58PM -0400, Benjamin Greenwald wrote: > This e-mail also highlights a common misconception. The "stable" > in FreeBSD-Stable refers to the stability of the feature set of the > releases along the branch, not the robustness of those releases. > Granted the two are correlated, but there is always the possibility that > you will be the unlucky (or lucky depending on your point of view) one > to run into a yet undiscovered bug in an existing feature. Except in this case I doubt it was a bug in FreeBSD at all, more likely to be hardware on the user's machine. "Spontaneous reboots", "Spurious signal 11s" are very very good signs of this. You say "your system has run for 2 1/2 years without a hardware fault", I say "after 2 1/2 years your hardware is wearing out" ;-) Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message