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Date:      Thu, 3 Aug 2000 05:32:45 +1000
From:      "Doug Young" <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au>
To:        "Steve Fagan" <sfagan@pmr.com>, <msilver@sc.rr.com>, "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: new books, changing my pt. of view
Message-ID:  <014e01bffcb8$7d46fed0$847e03cb@ROADRUNNER>
References:  <DBB3921EFE2AD211A81500A0C9B5FE760579452C@msg04.scana.com> <06a801bffc9d$73c1a9c0$1600010a@pmr.com>

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I'm totally in favour of regular folks writing HOWTO docs, could never
understand
the logic of  giving the job to propellorheads who write stuff that only
others of their ilk can comprehend. For some reason there appears to be a
taboo in FreeBSD against "step by step" instructions


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Fagan" <sfagan@pmr.com>
To: <msilver@sc.rr.com>; "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'"
<freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc: "'Doug Young'" <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au>
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: new books, changing my pt. of view


> Check out http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd
>
> One site I like.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "SILVER, MICHAEL A" <MSILVER@scana.com>
> To: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Cc: "'Doug Young'" <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 11:10 AM
> Subject: RE: new books, changing my pt. of view
>
>
> > I couldn't agree more.
> >
> > >My point was / is that there's nothing wrong with the reliability of
> > FreeBSD,
> > >however its badly lacking in usable "how to get blah working in 5
steps"
> > >type documentation. If that issue could be properly resolved it would
> > certainly
> > >challenge Solaris / SCO etc  The manual & Complete FreeBSD still lack a
> > >heap of the essential details needed to get stuff working quickly ....
to
> > get
> > >something unfamiliar working one has to read disjointed bits of this &
> bits
> > of
> > >that, attempt to piece the lot together so its halfway intelligible,
then
> > >post heaps of questions to the list and hope someone has been down the
> > exact
> > >same road recently and remembers how to solve the issue. That's maybe
OK
> > >for hackers with unlimited resources of time, but its not practical for
> > businesses
> > >who just need the thing working yesterday.
> >
> > You have hit the nail on the head.  I have heard profressional UNIX
> > programmers complain about this same thing.
> >
> > I wonder if this gap could not be filled by a well designed web site.
> > Basically a 'What is' and 'How to' database.  For example, if you wanted
> to
> > set up a firewall, search for 'firewall', and a list of the available
> > packages would be displayed with detailed layman descriptions of each
with
> > advantages and disadvantages, home web sites, and most importantly, step
> by
> > step setup instructions and maybe some troubleshooting guidliness pulled
> > from past messages.  This would help 1) in finding the appropriate
package
> > for a given situation, and 2) in setting it up, which is always the
> hardest
> > part.  The instructions would have to written to the lowest common
> > denomenator (like me).
> >
> > Let me know what you think about this.  Perhaps it already exists???  If
> > not, it may be time for us 'newbies' to step up to the plate.
> >
> > ...Michael...
> >
> >
> >
> >
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