From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 14 12:57:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC67E16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:57:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.chrononomicon.com (chrononomicon.com [216.37.143.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E7AB43D45 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:57:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [192.168.0.42]) by mail.chrononomicon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 396C8354292; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 07:57:04 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <200502131614.09991.ean@hedron.org> References: <200502112313.28082.hindrich@worldchat.com> <1453180591.20050213095312@wanadoo.fr> <200502131614.09991.ean@hedron.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 07:57:05 -0500 To: Ean Kingston X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: Anthony Atkielski cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X on a server Re: Freebsd vs. linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:57:07 -0000 On Feb 13, 2005, at 4:14 PM, Ean Kingston wrote: > On February 13, 2005 03:53 am, Anthony Atkielski wrote: >> Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes: >>> You can install the X libraries and client apps on your server -- >>> this >>> works fine at secure level 3 and does not require kernel >>> configurations >>> changes or special daemons or anything. What it allows you to do is >>> then link software against the X libraries and then redirect the >>> display to your workstations X server. This meets your criteria and >>> can be handy for certain things. Your apps still run in userland >>> only >>> and there is no HW touching stuff. You are not running the X Server >>> on >>> your FBSD Server machine. >> >> I'll consider it, although it still sounds complicated. >> >> What do I gain from X that I don't already have with remote terminal >> sessions like those created with SecureCRT? I know it looks pretty, >> but >> what server-related things can I do with X that I cannot do with >> ordinary terminals? I'm not aware of anything right now; it seems >> that >> everything can be done from a command line (thank goodness--working >> with >> Windows is a nightmare precisely _because_ so many things cannot be >> done >> from a command line). > > I run an XLoad app on every server with the display on my desktop (set > to > update once a minute. It lets me keep an eye on the general health of > the > servers during the day. Asside from that I haven't found a truely > useful GUI > app for servers. I don't know if this counts at all (especially since it's not FBSD), and I'm loathe to say positive things about NetWare, but I remember reading their "Snakes" screensaver was actually a load meter...the bigger the load on the server, the longer the tales on the snakes and the faster they moved on the screen. -Bart