From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 8 20:43:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 145CD16A4B3; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:43:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (ns1.freebsdmall.com [65.60.36.76]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83BE343FD7; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:43:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 146C81CC68; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:43:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:43:01 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Message-ID: <20031009034301.GC75593@freebsdmall.com> References: <200310081041.h98Af46G068054@lurza.secnetix.de> <3F840535.1060207@jonny.eng.br> <20031008151833.GG7209@freebsdmall.com> <3F8447E4.1050209@tcoip.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F8447E4.1050209@tcoip.com.br> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D cc: Oliver Fromme cc: re@freebsd.org cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISO names (Was: 4.9-RC2 is on ftp-master..) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 03:43:31 -0000 On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 02:22:44PM -0300, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > >I think it is redundant since the files are living in /pub/FreeBSD. > >If you move them someplace where FreeBSD it no longer part of the > >namespace, then sure, it probably makes sense for you to add FreeBSD > >back into the name. > > Well, you are thinking of FTP. Jo?o is referring to P2P applications, No I'm not, I specifically told the poster that he should rename them if he takes them out of the FTP namespace. I was thinking exactly of P2P applications. > some of which are particularly well suited to the fast distribution on > very large files, and in those the concept of the "directory" the files > are in may be non-existent. Yep, that's why I told him to add 'FreeBSD' to the namespace of his app if he takes it out of FTP. The directory hierarchy is far long enough, and the filenames are also quite long. If anything I think we should be optimizing the other way, to make them less redundant and easier for FTP browsers to find. Any kind of FTP<->P2P gateway needs to translate names appropriately. It would be trivial for a script to take some of the information from the FTP directory and use it in the P2P namespace. Every peice of information does not need to be duplicated in both the path and the filename in order to save 5 minutes of time for the handful of people setting up such systems. - Murray