From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 15 17:12:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1516671F; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:12:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from zxy.spb.ru (zxy.spb.ru [195.70.199.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB9278C0; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:12:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from slw by zxy.spb.ru with local (Exim 4.84 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4Xvc-000OG0-L4; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 20:12:08 +0300 Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 20:12:08 +0300 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov To: Warner Losh Cc: Adrian Chadd , Bruce Simpson , Steve Kargl , Craig Rodrigues , Marcel Moolenaar , "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , Marcel Moolenaar , "src-committers@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: svn commit: r284198 - head/bin/ls Message-ID: <20150615171208.GW1647@zxy.spb.ru> References: <557C661F.8080104@freebsd.org> <860017ED-D754-450C-865D-2D81A30C2212@xcllnt.net> <20150614100045.GF58397@zxy.spb.ru> <557D55CB.5050009@fastmail.net> <20150614171031.GA5857@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <557DCBED.2010804@fastmail.net> <39A1D5A9-1BD9-4828-B10D-D347771CBAD2@bsdimp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <39A1D5A9-1BD9-4828-B10D-D347771CBAD2@bsdimp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: slw@zxy.spb.ru X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zxy.spb.ru); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:27:43 +0000 X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:12:19 -0000 On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 10:36:12AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > > On Jun 14, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > > > > I do like how zero percent of the comments are "hey, maybe we need > > unit tests that run these tools and ensure they output the right > > stuff." If this were ${WORK} and I were ${BOSS}, I'd have asked the > > libxo developers to include unit tests before/after for each thing > > they broke, so we don't have a repeat of this kind of thing. But, this > > apparently isn't ${WORK} and I definitely don't want to be anyones > > boss, so.. > > gstat still produces the right output. It simply has been broken in that > you can't just hit 'q' anymore. So while necessary, it wouldn't be > sufficient. I am about initial gstat behavior: you can't be do `gstat > output_log`, wait hour, press ^C and analyse output -- gstat exit after one ineration. I am talk all utilites have different behavior -- some exits by pressing 'q', some only by ^C (systat), some can be infinitly output to file|pipe, some -- not. Some have looped mode, some -- not, some can handle multiple obejcts (gstat, iostat), some -- not (netstat -nbI). And more: ix show network statics in netmap mode, igb -- don't show. No unification. This is more vital, I think. And no tools for collect correlation data -- for example collect at same time CPU load by core, i/o load by disk and network load by inetrface. You may talk about Graphite, but graffit is crap: http://grisha.org/blog/2015/05/04/recording-time-series/