From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 18:09:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 130D8106566C for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 18:09:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 853448FC0A for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 18:09:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkcjc3 with SMTP id jc3so4569452bkc.13 for ; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 11:09:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zReJcsbAsqMZUEYh7EZn6I5ofE46QwEhJuc3zoDhci0=; b=IG6TzroeWLhcsce1B+5Vv8J194FLtA2BexcdxKMC8q6PCnLXw4PvlHnSwtnj5IUI/h UESC/BJHca13bbz3eeI7B2SQRwnCs31wvqnlr3sPCtgHLBT8TynjqdJviT65K5Ch/yrH tLR6k0nXYsBSNuiv8xc+zp4x2DzKA4Y2WdtH0Zy5Gemwd+xXwXgh2KMQgAlo6s6c9Tba M67ntdbe+SDI7BCOuP4uN7x1HabHQVe6nDIf6O8ptoOg0xb6Bof9b9WZIT6vPpU9sYTZ 36Cw0CFLCrJmF51UNm4fH+/6UMDhAmsngv6QOaC63yurbo0wqFX53ltpWBaHlncP6VOT pdIA== Received: by 10.205.117.15 with SMTP id fk15mr3370372bkc.133.1333994991138; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 11:09:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: utisoft@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.202.142 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 11:09:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201204091749.q39HnYsF092884@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <201204091749.q39HnYsF092884@fire.js.berklix.net> From: Chris Rees Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 18:09:20 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: JiiYSjm8ICpbcwkLPLbJu3w1C1c Message-ID: To: "Julian H. Stacey" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Mark Linimon , Scot Hetzel , Boris Samorodov , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail/imaptools: port removal at Monday April 9th X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 18:09:53 -0000 On 9 April 2012 17:49, Julian H. Stacey wrote: >> From: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Chris Rees >> >> Well, whatever he says, he can't revoke the license of what's already >> been distributed. >> >> ########################################################################= #### >> # Copyright (c) 2008 Rick Sanders =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0# >> # =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0# >> # Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software for any = =A0 =A0# >> # purpose with or without fee is hereby granted, provided that the above= =A0 # >> # copyright notice and this permission notice appear in all copies. =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0# > > ... > > Exactly ! > > >> From: Mark Linimon > >> portmgr's policy is to honor removal requests, no matter the circumstanc= es. > ................................................ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^ > > > Irresponsible. =A0Real 'Managers' shoulder responsibility. =A0So ... > > In /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk, define a warning variable after > NO_CDROM, NO_PACKAGE, [ RESTRICTED_FILES ], with example: > > =A0WARNING+=3D"Generic author tried to retrospectively withdraw sources." > =A0# =A0 =A0 Maintainer suggest see files/... & http://... > > Allow individual ports Maintainers to indicate status of issues. > Allow individual installers to decide their Own take on issues, Not Yours= ! > > - Ports wrappers belong to FreeBSD, not generic authors. > - Sources once published can't be unpublished. > =A0(IMO No need of a new project & port name to excuse retention). > - Distfiles if not on freebsd.org site are not even our problem. > > portmgr should retain respect by dumping a foolish policy. =A0sticking > to technical & avoiding programmers guesses & fears about laws, or > assumptions USA law controls global law or whatever else. Stay > technical. =A0The globe has 196 countries with their own legal > jurisdictions, individual installers should be able to make their > own decision on law & risks & morality as localy appropriate. Hi Julian, I understand your viewpoint, but given the horrible experiences certain people had on this kind of thing (you were around then, too), I think that the 'make a fork and port that instead' is perfectly reasonable. At least then the software has a maintainer. Chris