Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 18:09:20 +0000 From: Chris Rees <crees@FreeBSD.org> To: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com> Cc: Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>, Scot Hetzel <swhetzel@gmail.com>, Boris Samorodov <bsam@passap.ru>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail/imaptools: port removal at Monday April 9th Message-ID: <CADLo838-VS6JCKhg6ZQnZVWY6rNraPr125utDwXkFarCxoQU6g@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201204091749.q39HnYsF092884@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <CADLo83_%2BvgSKDCN9i0shyOWjmdiDvbfLdxmU2qs=UKDbac6tnw@mail.gmail.com> <201204091749.q39HnYsF092884@fire.js.berklix.net>
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On 9 April 2012 17:49, Julian H. Stacey <jhs@berklix.com> wrote: >> From: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Chris Rees <crees@freebsd.org> >> >> Well, whatever he says, he can't revoke the license of what's already >> been distributed. >> >> ########################################################################= #### >> # Copyright (c) 2008 Rick Sanders <rfs9999@earthlink.net> =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0# >> # =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0# >> # Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software for any = =A0 =A0# >> # purpose with or without fee is hereby granted, provided that the above= =A0 # >> # copyright notice and this permission notice appear in all copies. =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0# > > ... > > Exactly ! > > >> From: Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> > >> portmgr's policy is to honor removal requests, no matter the circumstanc= es. > ................................................ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^ > > > Irresponsible. =A0Real 'Managers' shoulder responsibility. =A0So ... > > In /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk, define a warning variable after > NO_CDROM, NO_PACKAGE, [ RESTRICTED_FILES ], with example: > > =A0WARNING+=3D"Generic author tried to retrospectively withdraw sources." > =A0# =A0 =A0 Maintainer suggest see files/... & http://... > > Allow individual ports Maintainers to indicate status of issues. > Allow individual installers to decide their Own take on issues, Not Yours= ! > > - Ports wrappers belong to FreeBSD, not generic authors. > - Sources once published can't be unpublished. > =A0(IMO No need of a new project & port name to excuse retention). > - Distfiles if not on freebsd.org site are not even our problem. > > portmgr should retain respect by dumping a foolish policy. =A0sticking > to technical & avoiding programmers guesses & fears about laws, or > assumptions USA law controls global law or whatever else. Stay > technical. =A0The globe has 196 countries with their own legal > jurisdictions, individual installers should be able to make their > own decision on law & risks & morality as localy appropriate. Hi Julian, I understand your viewpoint, but given the horrible experiences certain people had on this kind of thing (you were around then, too), I think that the 'make a fork and port that instead' is perfectly reasonable. At least then the software has a maintainer. Chris
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