From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Mar 2 23:36:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E75914E4A for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 23:36:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id BAA08146; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 01:36:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 01:36:18 -0600 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: The Hermit Hacker , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Guess we've lost the server market too...? Message-ID: <19990303013618.E25217@futuresouth.com> References: <39909.920444937@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <39909.920444937@zippy.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Tue, Mar 02, 1999 at 11:08:57PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Mar 02, 1999 at 11:08:57PM -0800, a little birdie told me that Jordan K. Hubbard remarked > > http://www.ibm.com/news/1999/03/02.phtml > > While I'm not denying IBM's residual importance in the marketplace > (and that's still pretty darn big), I hardly see this as having > "lost" anything at all. While I strive very hard to avoid taking extreme views on anything (OK, you can stop laughing now), I kinda agree with the 'lost' comment. As far as a lot of the 'mainstream' market is concerned, what everyone else is saying and what big companies are saying is what's right. Why else would NT be being used anywhere? Intel's chipped in a bit to Linux. Now here's IBM (pretty darn big, in Jordan's words) doing it too. Dell (I think?) has said they'll begin shipping systems with Linux. They've pretty well hit critical mass, and it's just going to snowball. The mainstream market has found it's blue-eyed baby boy. Bad? Good? I'm not going to pass judgement on this. Have we 'lost' the server market? Well, that's a tough one, since it's hard to say anyone has 'won' the market, or even if 'lost' and 'won' have any meaning. But we're certainly behind some balls, and one of them has a disturbing figure closely resembling "8" on it. --- *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | Matthew Fuller http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd | * fullermd@futuresouth.com fullermd@over-yonder.net * | UNIX Systems Administrator Specializing in FreeBSD | * FutureSouth Communications ISPHelp ISP Consulting * | "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, | * is because I haven't figured out how to light the * | middle yet" | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message