From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Feb 5 13:56:23 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 931) id 8C85937B406; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:56:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:56:22 -0600 From: Juli Mallett To: Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg Cc: Daniel O'Connor , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dillon@'s commit bit: I object Message-ID: <20030205155622.A99519@FreeBSD.org> References: <20030205021134.GO12525@wantadilla.lemis.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20030204201252.03ccb2e0@localhost> <1044415826.2362.2.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> <3E40D2B6.2010006@401.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <3E40D2B6.2010006@401.cx>; from listsub@401.cx on Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 10:00:38AM +0100 Organisation: The FreeBSD Project X-Alternate-Addresses: , , , , X-Towel: Yes X-LiveJournal: flata, jmallett X-Negacore: Yes Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * De: Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg [ Data: 2003-02-05 ] [ Subjecte: Re: dillon@'s commit bit: I object ] > [snipped] So write some documentation, run an advocacy site, do something which is directly giving back to the community, and don't do it thinking that you have anything coming. You don't, I don't, period. However since I happen to actively work ON FreeBSD and INSIDE the project, I get to say how internal issues are handled. I can't help but think most of the users in the world would vote for jkh for some lame-ass popularity reason and go around like "I HELPED JORDAN K. HUBBARD CEO OF FREEBSD TO WIN THE CORE TEAM BACK FOR DILLON" or such. You have to get into the system, if you want the sort of influence people are talking about. Submit bug reports. Learn how to fix simple things. Or just fix documentation. It's appreciated. But don't turn into [name omitted] and run around doing things for the @FreeBSD.org address. You gotta actually want to help, to be allowed to do things on your own. Or to help. If you're just fucking around for fame and glory then who gives a shit about you anyway? -- Juli Mallett AIM: BSDFlata -- IRC: juli on EFnet OpenDarwin, Mono, FreeBSD Developer ircd-hybrid Developer, EFnet addict FreeBSD on MIPS-Anything on FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message