From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 10 13:12:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 556442EC for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2015 13:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (elsa.codelab.cz [94.124.105.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 100349AF for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2015 13:12:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id E206A28429; Tue, 10 Mar 2015 14:03:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from illbsd.quip.test (ip-89-177-50-74.net.upcbroadband.cz [89.177.50.74]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0638C28423; Tue, 10 Mar 2015 14:02:59 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <54FEEB9A.3020407@quip.cz> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 14:03:22 +0100 From: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/35.0 SeaMonkey/2.32 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Olsson , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: There has to be a better way of merging /etc during a major freebsd-update References: <20150310120540.GN8223@pol-server.leissner.se> In-Reply-To: <20150310120540.GN8223@pol-server.leissner.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 13:12:41 -0000 Peter Olsson wrote on 03/10/2015 13:05: [...] > (I amused myself by counting all files during this stage. > I had to answer y to about 320 files, most of which only > had changes in the ID.) > > This was my first upgrade from 8.4 to 9.3. I have 30 more to go > before the 8.4 EoL this summer. I see 30 completely unnecessarily > wasted hours in my future... > And think of the combined lost man hours worldwide in these upgrades! > Merge seems to be a really stupid choice for major upgrades. [...] This and some other problems with freebsd-update (hanging on the reboot after update) turns me back to using source compiled upgrades. I am compiling 10.1 right now to do the upgrades from 8.4 to 10.1 on 15 machines. Once compiled, I will NFS mount /usr/src and /usr/obj to all machines and will run installkernel, installworld and mergemaster with customized .mergemasterrc. It is more reliable and predictable upgrade, than freebsd-update. (I used freebsd-update for many years, but enough is enough) Miroslav Lachman PS: on PC-BSD there is etcupdate for merging changed files in /etc