From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 5 20:50:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCE5616A41F for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 20:50:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A06CB43D53 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 20:50:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7571A4DB3; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 13:50:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D565851716; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:50:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:50:05 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Albert Shih Message-ID: <20060405205005.GA29124@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20060405200341.GD14126@math.jussieu.fr> <20060405200727.GA28371@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060405201500.GE14126@math.jussieu.fr> <20060405202100.GA28626@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060405203741.GF14126@math.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060405203741.GF14126@math.jussieu.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Disappointed X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 20:50:07 -0000 --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 10:37:41PM +0200, Albert Shih wrote: > OK I just do it. I just hope the maintainer can understand me... >=20 > >=20 > > As a first step: you say your server crashed. Did it panic? Do you > > have debugging settings (INVARIANTS, WITNESS) enabled? Do you have > > DDB enabled? Read through the chapter on kernel debugging in the > > developers' handbook and reconfigure your kernel accordingly, then > > proceed from there. >=20 > Well it's no so easy. I can try but there least 600 users waiting the big > fsck when the server crash. I'm not sure I can spend many time to try > this.. But I promise you I will try. Thanks. You need to evaluate whether it's more important for you to try to get the problem fixed, or to keep dealing with the downtime from the crashes. Trying to reproduce on a test machine is also a good idea. Unfortunately, debugging system problems does take work, but at the same time if you can't put the work in, it's not so likely you'll be able to resolve the problem. > NB: Why this kind of problem can happen ? I ask this because until 6. I > never have this kind of problem. All software has bugs, and sometimes hardware has bugs too. Kris --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFENC19Wry0BWjoQKURAn+eAJ9pTzyUosec/bgR5Xwq8h5oMD8Y8gCgjNRw jXg37PdwyX1mAErD9LZR26g= =yqor -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF--