From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 00:05:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96BDC16A420 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:05:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hartzell@satchel.alerce.com) Received: from merlin.alerce.com (w094.z064001164.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.164.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD23143D68 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:05:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hartzell@satchel.alerce.com) Received: from merlin.alerce.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merlin.alerce.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2903521A0; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:05:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from satchel.alerce.com (w092.z064001164.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.164.92]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by merlin.alerce.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03853214E; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:05:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from satchel.alerce.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by satchel.alerce.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBH05qWq086221; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:05:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hartzell@satchel.alerce.com) Received: (from hartzell@localhost) by satchel.alerce.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id jBH05p7Z086214; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:05:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hartzell) From: George Hartzell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17315.22111.426723.110802@satchel.alerce.com> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:05:51 -0800 To: "Kevin Oberman" In-Reply-To: <20051216205327.4D7BF5D09@ptavv.es.net> References: <20051216202938.GA36252@nowhere> <20051216205327.4D7BF5D09@ptavv.es.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 17) "Jumbo Shrimp" XEmacs Lucid X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: hartzell@alerce.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:05:51 -0000 Kevin Oberman writes: > [...] > No. There is no conflict between Cx states and EST. Cx states specifies > how deeply the CPU will sleep when idle. EST controls processor speed > and voltage. In most cases, your REALLY want to use both of these. They > are very significant in saving power. (Of course, USB tends to limit the > effectiveness of Cx states. I need to run without USB to get really good > battery life and to make suspend (S3) really ut power drain. Can you expand a bit on that "Of course USB...". What's the problem with USB? Can one just kunload it before suspend? g.