From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Apr 19 14:47:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from gargoyle.apana.org.au (brisba6.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.66.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36C537BDBE for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 14:47:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by gargoyle.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA18344; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 07:47:00 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from roadrunner.apana.org.au(203.3.126.132), claiming to be "ROADRUNNER" via SMTP by gargoyle.apana.org.au, id smtpdp18342; Thu Apr 20 07:46:53 2000 Message-ID: <01a301bfaa49$096fa730$847e03cb@ROADRUNNER> From: "Doug Young" To: "Kevin McCarty" Cc: "Gail Pickett" , , "m l mack" , References: Subject: Re: newbies Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 07:48:42 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org 'Fraid I've never had much to do with printing in unix, specially that regular ghostscript stuff. I use the CUPS utility with Solaris because its infinitely more logical, but when I looked recently I couldn't find a binary for FreeBSD > Thanks, I was seting up some servers for DNS and using freebsd and openbsd > and whenever I posted a question, I never got a response. Appreciate your > time. Hmmmm ..... I'm still wading through the docs on that DNS stuff .... seems to be one of the less well explained areas > > Could you send me a copy of a /etc/printcap file that does network > printing. > > I am having a heck of a time with a local printer using ghostscript and > *view. > thanks > kevin > > please respond to kmccart1@nycap.rr.com > > > > ttyl > > > > On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Doug Young wrote: > > > Came here OK :) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kevin McCarty" > > To: "Gail Pickett" > > Cc: "Doug Young" ; > > ; "m l mack" > > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 1:08 AM > > Subject: Re: newbies > > > > > > > > > > Hello and good day, could someone respond if they get this message..... > > > I ahve posted numerous messages and have not gotten any response. > > > thanks > > > kevin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Gail Pickett wrote: > > > > > > > I have been living with and learning FreeBSD for six months now, and I > > am > > > > indebted to the FreeBSD mailing list archives for the wealth of > > > > information and usable answers provided within. I am still trying to > > get > > > > my machine completely set up; I guess this is an on going process that > > > > never ends. > > > > > > > > Overall the handbook, tutorials and manpages are excellent. I would > > like > > > > to see more examples included with the manpages. Many manpages, the > > > > first time I look at them, are like reading greek; an example or two of > > > > the most commonly used variations of a command would save lots of time > > and > > > > errors. > > > > > > > > The manpages also seem to forget the obvious sometimes. I started > > > > playing with crontab recently. To edit a user's crontab, you have to > > use > > > > invoke the command > > > > > > > > # crontab -u username -e > > > > > > > > and do this as root. The manpage doesn't mention this anywhere; I got > > > > this info from the mailing list archives. > > > > > > > > I spent four days setting up userland ppp. Mostly because my machine's > > > > BIOS was incorrectly setting the speed for the serial port that the > > > > modem uses. The instructions were great, but they covered some hundred > > > > pages (I cheated and printed them out with the MS Windows machine at > > > > work) - ppp manpage, pendantic ppp primer, example ppp.conf file, etc. > > > > > > > > I have given up on my printer. I have noticed that over the six months > > of > > > > not being able to print that my piles of paper cluttering my home have > > > > just about disappeared. I have decided to go 'paperless' at home, with > > > > the exception of my weekly grocery list. So some good has come out of > > not > > > > being able to learn how to setup something for my FreeBSD machine. :) > > > > > > > > Back to troubleshooting crontab and my disapearing mail... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Doug Young wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hear hear !!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > All those experts out there please take notice > > > > > > > > > > Someone new to a subject doesn't need to know about all the bells & > > > > > whistles, provision of information suitable for an expert will only > > confuse > > > > > them further. > > > > > I believe that documentation should be prepared by the most junior > > person > > > > > available and not some geek with 458 years experience .... at least > > then it > > > > > will probably contain ALL the necessary steps. > > > > > > > > > > The basics of unix are for the most part extremely simple ... its only > > the > > > > > documentation that makes it complicated. I've been working on an entry > > level > > > > > install / configure text for members of our non-profit internet access > > > > > group, and in its basic text form this reduces the information needed > > to > > > > > some 7 pages of A4. > > > > > I'm now putting together a picturebook format so that its even more > > explicit > > > > > :) > > > > > The document is intended to allow a total newbie with no prior > > experience of > > > > > unix / linux / etc to install FreeBSD & configure it as a gateway, > > with > > > > > sendmail, cuciopop, ppp, apache all working with no aggro in only an > > hour or > > > > > two. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "m l mack" > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 7:34 AM > > > > > Subject: newbies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > > > As one who doesn't know Unix from Eunuchs, I beg you to consider > > this > > > > > > teaching technique. Once, instruction books started out by walking > > you > > > > > > through a number of everyday tasks you were going to have to master. > > It > > > > > > wasn't until you got the basics down, that theory and structure were > > > > > > introduced. These days theory always comes first which often leaves > > the > > > > > > truly ignorant more lost than they were to begin with. If someone > > came out > > > > > > with an old fashioned manual, I might be able to learn this. Please > > help > > > > > me > > > > > > get away from Windows. > > > > > > > > > > > > m l mack > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > > > > > > Kevin McCarty > > > Networking > > > Postmaster > > > Adjunct: Workstation Architecture > > > > > > The Sage Colleges > > > 518 244 2491 > > > > > > mccark@sage.edu > > > 2A > > > ********************************************************************** > > > > > > The present is the only thing of which a person can be deprived. > > > - Marcus Aurelius > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > > Kevin McCarty > Networking > Postmaster > Adjunct: Workstation Architecture > > The Sage Colleges > 518 244 2491 > > mccark@sage.edu > 2A > ********************************************************************** > > The present is the only thing of which a person can be deprived. > - Marcus Aurelius > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message