From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Oct 12 14:36:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA18225 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 14:36:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from ppp6575.on.sympatico.ca (ppp6575.on.sympatico.ca [206.172.208.167]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA18049 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 14:33:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tim@ppp6575.on.sympatico.ca) Received: from localhost (tim@localhost) by ppp6575.on.sympatico.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA03700; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 17:32:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim@ppp6575.on.sympatico.ca) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 17:32:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek Reply-To: ac199@hwcn.org To: Terry Lambert cc: ac199@hwcn.org, hoek@hwcn.org, jkh@time.cdrom.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fnord0: disabled, not probed. In-Reply-To: <199710122117.OAA22153@usr05.primenet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Terry Lambert wrote: > There's always scroll-lock and dmesg (heh: "Are there no work houses, > are there no prisons?"). You check dmesg for each and every time you boot your computer? Indeed, you are a better man than I! > What about the schmuck who disables his wd driver and can't figure out > why his machine won't boot? 8-). It's a two-edged sword. Hehe. If he disabled it he must not know what its use is. He doesn't know its use, so a "wd0: disabled, not probed" won't save him. Besides, only a schmuck would take action A, which has an unknown result, and assume that reaction C is unrelated. :) (Where A is disabling devices he doesn't recognize and C is a missing hdd :). -- tIM...HOEk OPTIMIZATION: the process of using many one-letter variables names hoping that the resultant code will run faster.