From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 05:48:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE5F106564A; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 05:48:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanegomi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C72EB8FC0A; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 05:48:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxn16 with SMTP id 16so4524903yxn.13 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2011 22:48:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qIhpgZ8pNTMlD7/ikSMWJl0RaD6p0Iq60cWJiml+fR8=; b=c0mOv8BqnW668DsvU0QcruG43ByR78ltkQZTtjWhFWDokKCPEPnBc6dICvC3wOl9bU uxdtEqnxiHAqrAEbzl1pBtnZqMyMNFhIM34dwg8+g+fKUfvdERTk2dTvENk2701TY7i8 kAn0anZDQk0YBLBPNStmKMdoRyFnh6zTOWMN8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.36.36 with SMTP id n4mr814425obj.16.1319176113959; Thu, 20 Oct 2011 22:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.122.33 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Oct 2011 22:48:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4E984BF9.4000700@FreeBSD.org> <1318607697-31950-1-git-send-email-lacombar@gmail.com> <4E9DA38F.1040305@FreeBSD.org> <006E57CF-F21F-4245-935A-9F391F0BCBEA@xcllnt.net> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 22:48:32 -0700 Message-ID: From: Garrett Cooper To: Arnaud Lacombe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Warren Block , Marcel Moolenaar , Andriy Gapon , Marcel Moolenaar , Olivier Smedts , FreeBSD Current , Oliver Pinter Subject: Re: possible mountroot regression X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 05:48:35 -0000 On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Arnaud Lacombe wrote= : > Hi, > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Garrett Cooper wrot= e: >> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Warren Block wrot= e: >>> On Wed, 19 Oct 2011, Oliver Pinter wrote: >>> >>>> On 10/19/11, Olivier Smedts wrote: >>>>> >>>>> 2011/10/19 Marcel Moolenaar : >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 18, 2011, at 9:04 AM, Andriy Gapon wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Would you be able to commit a variant of this patch sans the 'x' pa= rt? >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, soonish. If people like the 'x' change I can do that in a follo= wup >>>>>> commit as well. I just need to know if people like it or not... >>>>> >>>>> Yes, it's useful. But why not "q" for "quit" ? Just a bikeshed color >>>>> idea... >>>>> >>>> eXit :) >>> >>> In some languages... >>> >>> More important to me is the "the Abort manual input" which tells what i= t >>> does but not why the user would want to do that. >>> >>> Abort manual input... and then what? =A0Hang? =A0Retry? =A0Panic? =A0Re= boot? Resume >>> attempting to mount the root device that was expected? >> > well, panic, there isn't much other thing to do. At the very least, > letting the user input something is still better than what Linux do, > which is to panic. > >> Or just go back to status quo for previous releases and we can worry >> about usability later? >> > which status-quo ? the mountroot procedure of 7 is broken as well, as > I found out yesterday. So what ? 6 ? 5 ? 4 ? The status quo that I was thinking of was press enter to get a list of available devices instead of immediately panicking like the new bootloader code currently does. As long as that status quo is restored, I think a lot of existing users will be happy. Otherwise this discussion could stall and turn into an unnecessary bikeshed. Thanks, -Garrett