From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Dec 16 23:11:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail.jodeit.com (mail.jodeit.com [207.10.131.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E001A37B41D for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 23:11:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdennyj [207.10.131.111] by mail.jodeit.com (SMTPD32-6.06) id A80811E8012A; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 02:00:24 -0500 Message-ID: <005101c186ca$c637b560$6f830acf@gdennyj> From: "Denny Jodeit" To: "FreeBSD Chat" References: <3C1CE49E.39FBBED2@mindspring.com> <20011216222651.A92038@nexus.root.com> Subject: Re: Why no Indians and Arabs? Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 02:16:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Umm, but the assumption was wrong - there are both Indian and Arab > developers working on FreeBSD. His question was based on false assumptions, > so I don't know that there is anything to really talk about. :-) > > -DG Exactly. But, I'll take my chance to add my two pennies.. My dad is the son of a German immigrant. He was born in 1935 in New York State. That made him a citizen of the United States. My grandmother was born a month after her family arrived in Wisconsin from Germany in 1899, also making her a United States citizen. My grandfather had immigrated to this country in 1930, as Germany was in uprise. He was naturalized before my father's birth, further locking my father's citizenship. My father tells stories, which I care not to repeat here, of how German kids were treated in school here in the US, during the WWII conflict. My dad was age 5 in 1940, just starting school. His stories made me very glad I grew up in a kinder world, in the late 60's and 70's. I graduated from HS in '79. The world was a fairly happy place. I actually used to ignore questions like this thread originally posed. They weren't worth my time. My dad turns 67 in March, pretty healthy for a man of his age. He smoked for near 50 years and quit over 2 yrs ago. But he's an angry SOB a good part of the time. I've watched the pain my dad has gone thru, and survived, all my life. He's always had self-esteem problems. He's never been able to read well without help. He's always had problems dealing with conflicts in the workplace. I think his peers in school may have done this to him. I really do. But I don't blame them...I blame society. In light of the video recently released, uncovering bin Laden's uncaring ways for even his own followers, the question about Arabs and Indians was a little on the insensitive side. But I also understand the nervousness. It's a Catch22, no doubt. But let's not, for mankind's sake, repeat past mistakes. Arab in descent doesn't mean evil. Muslims do not want the rest of the world dead, how ridiculous. No God of any religion would want people killed in His name. The current world conflict is not about an ethnic group or any religion. It's about stopping terror. No one has the right to kill innocent people and create fear for any reason. Period. It's time for people of the world to talk, to meet, to understand...... and the Internet(with tons of credit to FreeBSD :>), has made that closer to reality. 'Nuff said. Denny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message