From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sat Aug 6 04:15:44 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A74BB02EB for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2016 04:15:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from www.lemis.com (www.lemis.com [208.86.226.86]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 624FE15CF; Sat, 6 Aug 2016 04:15:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from eureka.lemis.com (www.lemis.com [208.86.226.86]) by www.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F831B72803; Sat, 6 Aug 2016 04:15:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eureka.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C1B344948D; Sat, 6 Aug 2016 14:15:36 +1000 (AEST) Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 14:15:36 +1000 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Andrey Chernov Cc: Mark Martinec , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: date(1) default format changed between 10.3 and 11.0-BETA3 Message-ID: <20160806041536.GL86883@eureka.lemis.com> References: <3629a441-ee6d-2407-fa13-5ebd8db8d802@freebsd.org> <000c29ee0f3dbd1d433c565023d69e25@mailbox.ijs.si> <279e9b67-da23-cdd6-3a77-b084ad8269eb@freebsd.org> <4a454eef-55ae-b90d-4441-2aa9708fc747@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k9xkV0rc9XGsukaG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4a454eef-55ae-b90d-4441-2aa9708fc747@freebsd.org> Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-3-5346-1370, +61-3-5309-0418 Mobile: 0401 265 606. Use only as instructed. WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2016 04:15:44 -0000 --k9xkV0rc9XGsukaG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Friday, 5 August 2016 at 18:56:33 +0300, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > On 05.08.2016 18:44, Mark Martinec wrote: >> On 2016-08-05 17:23, Andrey Chernov wrote: >>> On 05.08.2016 17:47, Mark Martinec wrote: >>>> [Bug 211598] >>>> date(1) default format in en_EN locale breaks compatibility with 10.3 >>>> and violates POSIX >>>> >>>> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=211598 >>> >>> It breaks compatibility but not violates POSIX. POSIX care of only its >>> own POSIX (or C) locale. >> >> POSIX does say that the default format should be the same >> as with "+%a %b %e %H:%M:%S %Z %Y". >> It also says that %a and %b are locale's abbreviated names. > > It is true for _POSIX_ locale only, as I already say. en_US.* is not > POSIX or C locale. It still violates POLA. Greg -- Sent from my desktop computer. Finger grog@FreeBSD.org for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft mail program reports problems, please read http://lemis.com/broken-MUA --k9xkV0rc9XGsukaG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAlelZGgACgkQIubykFB6QiNpFgCgs8BvmK7uA/41CBqzWzc2NmtJ noYAnjsV/+wSPw0pkIkeZVSxxSpg78ee =9im0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k9xkV0rc9XGsukaG--