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From: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>
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Subject: Re: How secure are our phones (even freebsd and linux based phones)
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 20:03:29 -0700, jd1008 wrote:
> https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/19/great-sim-heist/

Phones are INSECURE and have always been. Period.

Just a reminder from few years ago (if you thought that "modern
technology" could save you):

http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/01/hack-turns-the-cisco-phone-on-your-desk-into-a-remote-bugging-device/

If you want a _really_ secure phone line, you need security
in _all_ involved aspects (terminal devices, connection line,
surrounding and so on).

http://cryptomuseum.com/crypto/phone.htm

And don't place it the same room where your "Smart TV" and
your new "intelligent thermostat" are happily listening.
Don't expect a smartphone (or a web app) to solve all the
involved problems with "the one solution". :-)




-- 
Polytropon
Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...