From owner-freebsd-www Mon Apr 21 17:28:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA00618 for www-outgoing; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 17:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00577; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 17:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by who.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.11) with SMTP id QAA17029 ; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 16:10:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by diablo.ppp.de (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0wJSDV-000QchC; Tue, 22 Apr 97 01:09 MET DST Received: from [193.141.161.123] (monster.pong.ppp.de [193.141.161.123]) by pong.PPP.DE (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA07780; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 01:08:59 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: stefan@pong.ppp.de Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 01:06:19 +0200 To: Wolfram Schneider , "Jordan K. Hubbard" From: Stefan.Bethke@Hanse.DE (Stefan Bethke) Subject: Re: Speaking about the countries menu - ahem ahem! ;) Cc: www@FreeBSD.ORG, cracauer@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 17:15 Uhr 19.04.1997, Wolfram Schneider wrote: >"Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: >> It's just too damn big, and >> another couple of countries added and it's going to take a 1600x1200 screen >> to see the whole thing. :-) > >It works with lynx on a 80x24 screen. It works with Netscape on my 14 >inch monitor with 1024x768. Just a few thoughts: while discussing a few points about the server and upcoming development with Martin Cracauer, he showed my his little script supposed to check the availibility of mirrors; quite a few were detected bad. We looked at the mirrors and found out that they are no mirrors, actually. If the intent is that any http://www.XX.freebsd.org/ URL is an (almost) up-to-date copy of http://www.freebsd.org/, then some 'mirrors' miss that goal (i.e. www.br.freebsd.org). I would find such a scheme quite useful. As some countries like to provide native-language pages, these should be integrated as http://www.XX.freebsd.org/XX/, I would suggest, as it is currently done on www.de.freebsd.org. Then, I would seperate the menu into one for mirrors and one with a list of native language pages. I also discussed wiht Martin the problem that few mirrors (if any at all) are running the CGIs locally; we have discussed some solutions that would allow a site to let the CGIs run on freefall but let the links to static documents point back to the original server. Another question would be whether www-mirrors are even needed nowadays. At least for the network connections I can use here in Germany, the caching proxy hierarchy now offered by providers allows for about the same performance as accessing www.de.freebsd.org. (Includes Xlink, IS, and WiN, for those curious). I'm not sure this holds true for other countries. Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Hamburg, Germany