From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 9 13:23:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA4E816A4BF for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from axl.seasidesoftware.co.za (axl.seasidesoftware.co.za [196.31.7.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1A743FB1 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:23:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@starjuice.net) Received: from sheldonh by axl.seasidesoftware.co.za with local (Exim 4.24; FreeBSD 5.1) id 1A7hJR-0008kK-1A; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 22:23:05 +0200 Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:23:05 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Scott Sipe Message-ID: <20031009202305.GJ42736@starjuice.net> Mail-Followup-To: Scott Sipe , current@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Sheldon Hearn cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sched_Ule X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 20:23:09 -0000 On (2003/10/09 00:28), Scott Sipe wrote: > Anything that seems disk intensive: bzip2 (unbzip2ing one big file makes > this happen), making world, building ports, etc makes my X environment > practically unusable. Mouse stutters, reaction times is very slow, feels > 10x more sluggish than normal. (I'm running KDE if anyone is curious). A number of us are seeing this problem, and not all of us are entry level end-users. I'm using a single PIII with 1GB of RAM and maxusers 0. No Hyper-threading, nothing interesting in the kernel (apart from I686_CPU only, KTRACE and _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING). The problem (as I recall) is that Jeff hasn't received reports from people who can dig into the problem and have the time to do so. For example, I'm pretty sure I could at least point a finger at the problem if I had time. But I'm under heavy pressure, and so the only solution that's feasible for me is to just switch to SCHED_4BSD and keep moving. What surprises me is that Jeff can't reproduce it. For me, the sluggish mouse problem manifests under these conditions: 1) Use a USB mouse, not a PS2 mouse. 2) SCHED_ULE in the kernel. 3) make buildworld (no -j necessary, but -k exacerbates the problem). 4) Fiddle around in X (no particular window manager required). Ciao, Sheldon.