From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 29 5:10:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from logicalhost.com (logicalhost.com [63.169.206.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8012937B401; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 05:10:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from colt.ncptiddische.net (ppp-145.wobline.de [212.68.69.153]) by logicalhost.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9TDCAR94069; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 08:12:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from howie.ncptiddische.net (howie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.3]) by colt.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9TDBa007853; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 14:11:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Received: from howie.ncptiddische.net (howie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.3]) by howie.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9TD9hu00416; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 14:09:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 14:09:43 +0100 (CET) From: Nils Holland X-X-Sender: nils@howie.ncptiddische.net To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= Cc: Randall Hopper , , Subject: Re: "VIA '686b southbridge fix applied" & -stable In-Reply-To: <200110291234.f9TCYbK35011@freebsd.dk> Message-ID: <20011029140547.D398-100000@howie.ncptiddische.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Søren Schmidt wrote: > Depends, it seems this bug is a combination of mb vendors not > knowing how to set the config regs of the VIA chips, and the > SBLive not conforming to the specs. I've had reports that it > works, but also afew that it doesn't... I guess the SBLive is not absolutely neccessary to make this bug occur. I haven't gotten into this issue too deep, but from what I have read, it seems that this bug might very well also occur if there is no SBLive in the system. One article claimed that the SBLive puts the PCI bus under heavier-than-normal stress, which in turn triggers the bug more often. Furthermore, I guess that all "patches", like VIAs 4-in-1 driver for Windows (never used that since I don't have Windows) and the FreeBSD patch are only workarounds. The core of the problem has to be found (and fixed) in the BIOS, AFAIK. From my own experience, a mobo I own was initially subject to the bug, but once I updated the BIOS provided by the manufacturer, I could do whatever I wanted to without ever having any problems again... Greetings Nils Nils Holland Ti Systems - FreeBSD in Tiddische, Germany http://www.tisys.org * nils@tisys.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message