From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 18 19:21:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17FB1137; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 19:21:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.jr-hosting.nl (mail.jr-hosting.nl [78.47.69.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9054E19BE; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 19:21:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.2.17] (a44084.upc-a.chello.nl [62.163.44.84]) by mail.jr-hosting.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5F8343F489; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:21:51 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_22F44B04-2886-464B-9974-6E491FFA4D46"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) Subject: Re: Translations (was Re: svn commit: r43974 - head/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/advanced-networking) From: Remko Lodder In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:21:49 +0100 Message-Id: <2A866B00-A040-4726-AD95-04E0F413FEBC@FreeBSD.org> References: <201402180226.s1I2QS0x076422@svn.freebsd.org> <5302C7B9.7090208@delphij.net> <5302E05F.1050200@delphij.net> To: Warren Block X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) Cc: "freebsd-doc@freebsd.org" , Xin LI , Warren Block X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 19:21:54 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_22F44B04-2886-464B-9974-6E491FFA4D46 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 18 Feb 2014, at 17:17, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 18 Feb 2014, Remko Lodder wrote: >=20 >> My project at work is not able to keep up with the ?content spree? = that Dru is >> doing to make things better. Good work, but a drama for translation = teams that >> need to be in sync first (and with a train that moves so fast, it = will remain >> out of date). >=20 > Maybe the only way to do that is translate a fixed revision/snapshot. = At least with our existing system. >=20 >> Do note that translating strings of text might have a dramatic = result; especially >> in non english versions, one translation might fit the one line but = the other line >> wouldn?t fit. Although ofcourse this sounds interesting there is much = more to it. >> (we do not have a set of predefined things we mention like $_[LANG] =3D= ?The bird >> flew over the house?; which is used once or perhaps twice. We have = ?rolling? content >> like a book. >=20 > Translation software like Pootle or poedit generally gives the = translator the choice. Content is shown in chunks, like a title or a = sentence. If one or more translations of that chunk already exist = (either from the current document or a different one!), the translator = can choose from them, or enter a better translation of their own. >=20 > This would radically change the way we do things. Translators would = still need to be aware that source documents had changed, but the = translation software would identify parts that were not yet translated. = It would ease the job for existing translators and lower the threshold = for new translators. >=20 > Obviously, this is all vague and ill-defined. Actual implementations = that can be tested would be much more useful. I believe the tools in = textproc/po4a are from Debian and somewhat dated. textproc/itstool = might do a better job separating content if we can just get it to = recognize and use our XML catalogs. >=20 > An easy way for translators to try it out is the next step. Since I do not have -that- much free time at the moment, and a new = assignment might interfere with my current project, I cannot do the heavy lifting of this. I am willing to test = this though if someone has something that I can try to work with. Cheers and keep up the good work :-))) Remko > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --=20 /"\ Best regards, | remko@FreeBSD.org \ / Remko Lodder | remko@EFnet X http://www.evilcoder.org/ | / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News --Apple-Mail=_22F44B04-2886-464B-9974-6E491FFA4D46 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJTA7LNAAoJEKjD27JZ84ywt0UP/1VA4dby1jm6wZ+F8lCD6mVz bbbgLRZB/3XJlAafSf8VRYGjPgt4fYw4TgSMVMVpGUdsRQMuOxTjugKeSp+jMgzv owI5JxospgfYYygA0BWzTNJAKsgOeqiohVNqGcrIWNH9tSjbRjg8yA7bHDuVEgLb 2+pbCZ9YGmMKH3h3v52kIHqoDkN/Eyvia2dChsJTDo5DiOzNKfrt2IofbAANrTu+ HSHIr2RzzSmbIAPjMASe+c3qyeNLOHrBBuNPMBVC+BMR0MIBgntFDn6s+hI1tv8Y 1+iFbyW5ULOyxTHLuw8yGyO4zMqr4tdYqpiyi34NW3tPzLwi043c2Wi6M9iHq4N2 95glQGSMDqPblGO+W/zwQ/jjgNO+QL4UtoHaEI2OXWw90QvK3oHnXBOFulSJFUFm HPSkS4iLs/PVOC7Pox3xcQscgyDqr9MTaJAVmzEAhILTxsKVX/Jq8wS2U4OnJvyD du6z5k8HmFes9elay9jN2T+3ekHXO182WPB/8v5Oz/n3eunKxx3LJ5dUlRmfh6zY Mx6uwLL0sgWMTjX4icoDd/1OHHCBDiI5gdBXRlQYOLCBAVJzKuspKTTBjkA0VpmC B8eVJLZpuxyYCfn/zxYr+MGzURXMOjzAjZsaveza4o3I+Srdj9ECWBXTHmlWL3lv PlBfZydeVWSrZM1YKgt6 =lQ9U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_22F44B04-2886-464B-9974-6E491FFA4D46--