From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Apr 18 18:13: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mired.org (dsl-64-192-6-133.telocity.com [64.192.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A8DF37B400 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 18:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25385 invoked by uid 100); 19 Apr 2002 01:12:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15551.28443.507235.182630@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 20:12:59 -0500 To: "f.johan.beisser" Cc: Rahul Siddharthan , Giorgos Keramidas , Bob Bomar , Subject: Re: overclocking and freebsd In-Reply-To: <20020418053829.X96787-100000@pogo.caustic.org> References: <20020418110814.A64286@lpt.ens.fr> <20020418053829.X96787-100000@pogo.caustic.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ From: Mike Meyer X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.51 (Python 2.2 on FreeBSD/i386) Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In <20020418053829.X96787-100000@pogo.caustic.org>, f.johan.beisser typed: > On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > > Actually, in common with many windows users, I just use alt-tab. KDE > > handles it very well (showing you the window titles in a non-intrusive > > way as you're cycling through them, so you can quickly hit the correct > > one), and sawfish/gnome is not bad either; in both cases it's much > > quicker than aiming a mouse pointer at the correct window, especially > > if you have a lot of open windows. Long time since I've used windows > > but my memory is that alt-tab isn't quite so nice there, though that > > key combination is I think a Microsoft invention. > i believe that the apple-tab key does the same thing, on MacOS. i don't > know how old the convention is, but it has spread to the point where just > about every window manager supports it now. there are still a couple > exceptions (blackbox, being one). That's a better way to do this, though I don't know of many window managers that use it. Quite a few can be convinced to give you a list of windows on a mouse click, then you select the one you want. The window manager I use - plpwm, in the plwm port - lets you invoke a list of windows - either all, or iconified, or visible - with a keystroke, then select one from the keyboard. I happen to have that bound to a two-keypress sequence to preserve most alt keys for my applications. That means I can activate any window in the system with three keystrokes, as opposed to two homing motions and a couple of clicks and pointing motions. Alt-tab and alt-backtab also work, along with alt-space for and alt-shift-space for rotating them. Finally, any of up to 9 visible windows can be activated with Control-digit. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message