From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Tue Jun 12 14:35:04 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A4B10195B1; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 14:35:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from devin@shxd.cx) Received: from shxd.cx (mail.shxd.cx [64.201.244.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D079787275; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 14:35:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from devin@shxd.cx) Received: from [64.201.244.132] (port=49978 helo=[10.0.0.112]) by shxd.cx with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1fSbPF-000Inn-Lc; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 04:59:45 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: svn commit: r334939 - head/stand/lua From: Devin Teske X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (15D60) In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 07:34:56 -0700 Cc: Kyle Evans , src-committers , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org, dteske@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <5F2C1321-ABD5-4065-8C3C-261CC575767C@freebsd.org> References: <201806110132.w5B1WI5d094546@repo.freebsd.org> <344AA709-2DF7-405C-AB4D-4F0978834EA1@FreeBSD.org> To: Warner Losh Sender: devin@shxd.cx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.26 X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 14:35:04 -0000 > On Jun 12, 2018, at 7:10 AM, Warner Losh wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 6:23 PM, Devin Teske wrote: >>=20 >>> On Jun 11, 2018, at 11:20 AM, Warner Losh wrote: >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 11:54 AM, Devin Teske wrote= : >>>>=20 >>>>> On Jun 11, 2018, at 7:07 AM, Warner Losh wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 7:36 AM, Devin Teske wrot= e: >>>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> At BSD Can there was the boot working group where we discussed that an = FCP would be required to decide this. >>>=20 >>> In the working group you weren't listening and being rather combative an= d demanding that I do stuff, >>=20 >> I think that's an unfair characterization of the situation, but it doesn'= t matter -- that's your opinion and you are entitled to it. >=20 > I would like to unconditionally apologize for my harsh words to Devin here= . I let my frustration get the better of me, which I should not have done. D= evin has been quite helpful for a long time with the boot loader and things r= elated to FORTH, and I should not have lashed out like this. I hope she can f= orgive my ill-chosen words. Thanks Warner. Forgiven if you can forgive any harshness from me at BSDCan. I also have to apologize for my performance in the working group. It could h= ave been better and I kind of monopolized the conversation. Apologies. >>> so I stopped talking. >>=20 >> Hopefully we can _start_ talking. As the principled author of this work, I= want to have a say in its deprecation since I still maintain that body of w= ork. >=20 > Yes. Work is underway to get a draft of a FCP together to start a discussi= on in arch to come to a data-driven decision. There's no desire to exclude y= ou from this process. >=20 Excellent. Looking forward to helping strike a good balance for the path for= ward for a smooth transition between boot languages. Devin=