From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 6 16:57:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2973637B401; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:57:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from orthanc.ab.ca (orthanc.ab.ca [216.123.203.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 953A843E6E; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:57:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca) Received: from orthanc.ab.ca (localhost.orthanc.ab.ca [127.0.0.1]) by orthanc.ab.ca (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gA70vMYc044944; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:57:22 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca) Message-Id: <200211070057.gA70vMYc044944@orthanc.ab.ca> To: Greg Lehey Cc: Marcin Cieslak , Kris Kennaway , FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: What is user uucp good for? In-Reply-To: Message from Greg Lehey of "Thu, 07 Nov 2002 08:37:48 +1030." <20021107083747.B592@firefly.lemis.com> X-Mailer: mh-e 6.1+cvs; nmh 1.0.4; Emacs 21.2 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 17:57:22 -0700 From: Lyndon Nerenberg Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> Maybe future generations will wonder what it is named after >> similarly to GCOS field in passwd today :-) > >At the very least we should change the shell. But Kris' suggestions >sound the best. I agree. But more importantly, let's make sure that we don't, by removing the uucp login, make it difficult for people to continue to run programs that need dialer access. If we remove uucp from the password file we need to ensure that UUCP, installed from the ports tree, will continue to work with the new device ownerships and permissions. In theory Taylor UUCP will work with only 'dialer' group access to the tty* and cua* devices, but this does need to be verified before nuking the uucp password file entry. OTOH, I don't see a pressing need to nuke the uucp login. Nothing breaks by leaving it in place, and third-party code assumes it exists (things that want to mess with modems, like FAX software). It makes more sense to (perhaps) mention 'uucp' is a deprecated login, but until *BSD defines an "official" interface to the dialer devices, it would be premature to remove the existing de-facto interface to them (think /var/spool/lock, and uu_lock(3)). --lyndon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message