From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 6 23:08:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140201065672 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2010 23:08:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [IPv6:2607:f2f8:3080::]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA988FC13 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2010 23:08:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B915B754C; Wed, 6 Oct 2010 16:08:35 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Erik Trulsson References: <86fwwjyurd.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20101006215345.1a57c45c@gumby.homeunix.com> <86pqvnxbre.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20101006225923.GA18732@owl.midgard.homeip.net> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.13.13; tzolkin = 3 Ben; haab = 6 Yax Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 16:08:35 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20101006225923.GA18732@owl.midgard.homeip.net> (Erik Trulsson's message of "Thu, 7 Oct 2010 00:59:23 +0200") Message-ID: <86vd5ex6ks.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 23:08:36 -0000 >>>>> "Erik" == Erik Trulsson writes: Erik> Since it essentially says that if you export it from the USA you will Erik> have to follow whatever laws and regulations covers such exports, it Erik> doesn't really add any burden since anybody doing such an export would Erik> be legally required to do so anyway. Erik> AFAICT the paragraph in question does not add any restrictions or Erik> burdens, it just points out potentially existing ones. Yes, you always have to obey the law when you export. But this clause seems to imply that the associated software *knowingly* triggers the export laws, probably in a bad way. Do you have a different opinion, and is it a legal opinion? Either this clause needs to be hoisted to the front page of the FreeBSD distro proper ("Some software contained within may be subject to...") or it should be removed from this software entirely. Burying it is irresponsible. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion