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Date:      Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:58:23 -0400
From:      Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca>
To:        jnemeth@victoria.tc.ca (John Nemeth)
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, tech-userlevel@netbsd.org
Subject:   Re: Swap overcommit (was Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)) 
Message-ID:  <199907141958.PAA02088@pzero.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:53:27 PDT." <199907141753.KAA02096@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca> 

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>>>>> "John" == John Nemeth <jnemeth@victoria.tc.ca> writes:
    John> On one system I administrate, the largest process is typically
    John> rpc.nisd (the NIS+ server daemon).  Killing that process would be a
    John> bad thing (TM).  You're talking about killing random processes.
    John> This is no way to run a system.  It is not possible for any
    John> arbitrary decision to always hit the correct process.  That is a
    John> decision that must be made by a competent admin.  This is the
    John> biggest argument against overcommit: there is no way to gracefully
    John> recover from an out of memory situation, and that makes for an
    John> unreliable system.

  No, I don't agree. 

  This is a biggest argument against solving the overcommit situation with
SIGKILL. I have no problem with overcommit as a concept, I have a problem
with being unable to keep my possibly big processes (X, rpc.nisd,
etc. depending on cicumstances) from being victims.

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